From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Nov 24 04:21:33 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EfG6U-00068m-Gq for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:31 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.192]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EfG65-00068W-Hw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:29 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so1078119wra for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ULFeWY1MKIp++ApOUkxrFlujxsFIHuHaPlMu4UsMKovcQFqtl0XifXD6vVMgpb+IuhV6KIZhEQ6F+A7DEbKQabsc9+2447tUtU1taSvhUOx6FHIobwknRhoium+ZACUBChqY10qLaIKLg4uBg9hU/M7pVsVCFVbh2V0WR3OEQVc= Received: by 10.54.113.14 with SMTP id l14mr4889971wrc; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:21:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560511240421j66079f39rde5f583172565fca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:21:04 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Wives And Husbands Under Laws In-Reply-To: <1915666744.20051123201029@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1915666744.20051123201029@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2671 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 11/23/05, Yanis Batura wrote: > > It is obvious that x2 = speni2 would be much more appropriate. > > I haven't yet studied the art of defining the lujvo place structure. > > Is the above a mistake? It looks like a mistake, there doesn't seem to be any reason to drop the x2 of speni. > I would like to use {le fetspe be mi} for "my wife", instead of {le mi > fetspe} which now is the only option left for me :) Well, you can always say {le speni be mi}, unless for some reason it is important to indicate her sex. {fetspe} doesn't say that she is human, or an adult, or whether she is tall or short, or what colour her eyes are, or her nationality, or ... so if you are not bringing up all those facts in the description, you may not need to bring up the fact that she is female either. In English it is natural to use "wife" because that's a basic term, but in Lojban the basic term is {speni} and in many situations it won't be necessary to use the compound term where you would use "wife" in English. mu'o mi'e xorxes