From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Nov 26 09:43:01 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Eg44j-0004jX-4U for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:43:01 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Eg44g-0004jP-0s for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:43:00 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so1466441wra for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fDayZJTDNofpnogUnxB+yyUnkoh7EHpfBQJ8TnK9xgz76ncJzcIpOOZleAClXPRPsYWOVNK2MkzDDlAwa/il0YwuZuaRaonDcc4UaEN5ava4IN/OMSBShqYxeFV3kN4VNF5vWqkHlZtkwPnP2bBuurnwHLH0qM1wS4xFJFl3Z6s= Received: by 10.54.68.4 with SMTP id q4mr1721882wra; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560511260942n10bb0c24v81f4437bdc233c32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:42:56 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Nick-cmevla In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0511260854y66fd980bu6450b70ae81e4225@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2d3df92a0511260634p761d3f3an30d40ed23c71dd94@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511260830s10175b4fp78da3fc48a66a71e@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511260854y66fd980bu6450b70ae81e4225@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2691 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 11/26/05, HeliodoR wrote: > > > -chjo (male) and -njo (female) in Esperanto. > > -ito/-ita are common in Spanish. > > -inho/inha in Portuguese. > > Aha, good to know. Similar to those of Italian. Right, I think -etto/-etta in Italian. > Do You speak Portugese, too? Not really, but since I speak Spanish, reading Portuguese is very easy, they are very close. > > There is no convention yet. Shortening is always a possibility, > > for example I sometimes call la camgusmis {camgus}. > > I have thought about that, but that's something of malrarbau. > You don't really want to shorten the name, the goal is to > call the person "Cmenita" or "Cmenito." For long names, shortening is not such a bad idea, even if natlangs do it too :) > Natlanguages connect the property of being dear with being > small somehow. That ought not to apply to Lojban. > > Maybe you can add -dib (from {dirba}) for an affectionate > > nickname: {do jinvi ma doi darvesydib}. > > Even thought of that, too. And it seems okay. > *Although* not in every case. .oi ru'e > Consider a Lojbanized foreign name with -dib at the end. How > could it be interpreted, xorxedib? Well, names are not meant to be interpreted anyway, so that shouldn't necessarily be a problem. For example the name "Rita" in Spanish ends in -ita but is not a diminutive. mu'o mi'e xorxes