From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 01 06:19:27 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EhpHS-0000Yd-PW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:19:27 -0800 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EhpHL-0000YV-G6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:19:24 -0800 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id h30so280167wxd for ; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:19:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=p2My1qt8yUONONVkBYPkCUWsXSgVrj1Pn4RrHmM/D7JN5LoHN5bToPbrYSKjUsd1SUjf6XTW6r32V7LGe6WPjh7yC4iARbNIF/nqLiZNW4QeO8Enh62vPhD6LxUCuxAyhdXjdDpkGPeHnTaTzu8owy5yJdwN5S/i17Xl69no6q8= Received: by 10.64.204.17 with SMTP id b17mr832288qbg; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.72.15 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 06:19:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0512010619p2ca628aepe86f3be1eaff71e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:19:17 +0100 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about questions In-Reply-To: <20051129175651.GD2289@miranda.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13807_17207216.1133446757914" References: <26506d300511280238g762086b4o@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511280645i24310fd2ga93e5b9be94cc067@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511281547y25fe8c93hcc71e1220ad4c82f@mail.gmail.com> <26506d300511290026x3e37568cm@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511290946w6c3c4caaqfad9f1773be4b98b@mail.gmail.com> <20051129175651.GD2289@miranda.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-archive-position: 2719 X-Approved-By: exitconsole@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_13807_17207216.1133446757914 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > > No, they don't. There are rather a lot of important cmavo which are sumti= . > > mi, do, ko'a, ko'i, ma, & da all come to mind immediately. Uhh... Yeah. But those are pro-sumti. So the moral is that EVERY (sumti AND NOT pro-sumti) INVOLVE selbri. Okay now? And 'ranjit' is a cmene, not a selbri. I'm not so sure: http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less7acronym.ht= ml "Simply put, if you see a Lojban letter being used as a sumti, you take it as referring to the last sumti whose selbri starts with that letter." And referring back to a person with the letter the name of that person begins with is a frequently used trick. Although I might be wrong, naturally. mi'e darves. ------=_Part_13807_17207216.1133446757914 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
No, they don't. There are rather= a lot of important cmavo which are sumti.

mi, do, ko'a, ko'i, ma, &= amp; da all come to mind immediately.
 
Uhh... Yeah. But those are pro-sumti.
So the moral is that EVERY (sumti AND NOT pro-sumti)
INVOLVE selbri.
Okay now?

And 'ranjit' is a cmene, not a s= elbri.
 
I'm not so sure:
http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/les= sons/less7acronym.html
"Simply put, if you see a Lojban letter being used as a sumti, you take it as referring to the last sumti whose selbri starts with that letter."
And referring back to a person with the letter the name of
that person begins with is a frequently used trick.
Although I might be wrong, naturally.
 
mi'e darves.
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