From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 02 05:29:58 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EiAz8-0007Zo-5F for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:29:58 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EiAz6-0007Zh-7R for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:29:57 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so70000wra for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:29:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LbZNeFOb1wxmZTMEdgR9UZ6saJtRrz1QEoVKZ9k7nNHUzNIV0tAZbE53g44Kr+sP2Saymbru2oxDCXE5dSV1vrbhS6c2FxxLyQtz8ChtLb3YBOK3H0x6WQpr/b5WOQ6ejV/5Sv3WEyzreDiJ5hivpM16jJWb17KEYfNHVOPHtxY= Received: by 10.54.121.18 with SMTP id t18mr316564wrc; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 05:29:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512020529g76f10534tbe3ffc7ad1777599@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:29:54 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: types of sumti In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2726 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 12/2/05, Newton, Philip wrote: > > Where in that list does something like "le nu mi do prami" go? > > Here, IMO: > > > > Then there are those formed by a gadri plus a selbri: {lei barda > > > mlatu}, {lo bruna be mi}, {la tsali}, {le ci moi}, etc. > > Remember that "nu BRIVLA" is a selbri just as "BRIVLA BRIVLA" is. Exactly. We might as well list all the different varieties of selbri too: - brivla - members of GOhI: {go'i}, {go'a}, {du}, etc. - NU : {nu mi klama le zarci}, {du'u ma kau klama}, {ka melbi}, etc. - / MOI: {ci mei}, {ny moi}, etc. - me : {me mi}, {me la djan}, etc. - me MOI: {me mi moi}, {me le do patfu moi}, etc. - nu'a They can all be combined with each other directly, with connectives and brackets, modified with SE/JAI and NAhE, have their arguments filled with be-bei, tagged with tenses/modals/negation. Any selbri can be used to form a sumti by combining it with a gadri. mu'o mi'e xorxes