From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jan 07 07:34:13 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvG56-0005WB-Ty for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:34:13 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EvG54-0005W3-5E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:34:12 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so2805756nzf for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:34:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U3EYzteKp7q5l+Gy16DMitQjp94jR8+Mqqpb6SYUxrE2qLQFm1lRiIIGCIYPlXj9Tp2ldQ7f+HHkOIlebph6PsHoyzpLkXg02KSrJOwyFjDcNh+KAnceAdHpVN3k2HLTB3JJtgbWirBEMLMfaDY8SxGNGtlhvOiWcxcz7FztW2k= Received: by 10.65.240.8 with SMTP id s8mr2173704qbr; Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.14 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 07:34:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:34:08 -0500 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Heath is the Man!. In-Reply-To: <20060107051210.GA3820@tulip> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060106233231.GA9015@manticore.csupomona.edu> <20060107051210.GA3820@tulip> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2916 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/7/06, Heath N. Caldwell wrote: > On 2006-01-06 18:53, Matt Arnold wrote: > > It depends on what you mean by that. Your sentence literally means > > Heath is the same as one male humanoid person. It would be a bad habit > > to use "mintu" as a substitute for "is." To get into a Lojbanic frame > > of mind you must leave behind the need for the word "is." For > > instance, if you want to say "Heath is a male humanoid person" you can > > just say {xit. nanmu}. > > Ah, but I am not saying that Heath is A man. I am saying Heath is THE > man. > > It is not sufficient to just describe Heath as being an exemplar of a > group. The purpose is to say that there is one and only one "The man", > and that Heath is he. > > Plus I am just joking around. > > -- > Heath Caldwell Interesting. I'm not sure I know how. Perhaps "Heath is the typical man" or "Heath is the stereotypical man." I would use "lu'e" and "le'e" for that, but I think that would involve making the cmevla a selbri. That's not allowed, is it? -epkat