From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 09 13:51:51 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ew4ve-0001Bj-UC for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:51:51 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ew4ve-0001Bc-L0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:51:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:51:50 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "Windows Metafile Vulnerability" Message-ID: <20060109215150.GM32187@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <46269339.20060107133749@mail.ru> <925d17560601070811h51a8af86k7c2b2e204d3f9eac@mail.gmail.com> <20060108085516.GE2134@localhost> <925d17560601090709v4addc4c5q7f1ab3119dea1467@mail.gmail.com> <20060109182833.GE32187@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560601091236s6abde85ev60a0dae7179e4d30@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560601091236s6abde85ev60a0dae7179e4d30@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 2926 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:36:21PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 1/9/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > I prefer sucta, actually. "bancu" is about points on a scale; > > Hmm... {bancu} is about being beyond a boundary or limit. For > example: > > di'u bancu le jimte le selkei lo ka ce'u javni > > That's beyond the limits of the game in the property of being a rule. > > di'u jvabancu > > That's a metarule. That's not what "metarule" means to me; to me a metarule is a rule about rules. A rule can be outside the boundaries of a game without being a metarule; "you must be wearing blue pants" is a rule outside the boundaries of the game of chess, for example, but is not a meta-rule. > > "sucta" is about moving to a whole different scale. > > How would you use it? I've never been very sure about the place > structure of {sucta}. la'e di'u cu javni gi'e sucta lo drata javni That's a rule abstracted from other rules. I'm not totally certain what sucta's place structure means either. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/