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Sorry for verbosity.

kevzu'i is my first attempt to create a lujvo.
This one is a lujvo for "stub" (Wikipedia-like).
I tried to translate it as "the thing which blocks a hole/breach".
Rather quickly I found gismu for both "to block" - {zunti}, and
"hole" - {kevna}, and proudly composed {kevzu'i}. Since that was used
only as a malglicean analogue of the English noun, that was enough for
me.

Yesterday I've finally went through the CLL Chapter 12 about the place
structure of lujvo, and decided to work out the place structure of
{kevzu'i}. Now I don't understand how to do that. Because:

kevna k1 is a cavity/hole/hollow/cavern in k2;
zunti z1 (evt./state) interferes with/hinders/disrupts z2
(evt./state/process) due to quality z3 (ka) [also blocks, obstructs, baffles; not necessarily forcing cessation]

Obviously we should make the following pattern for {kevzu'i}:
z1 stubs a hole k1=z2 in k2
But k1 cannot be equal to z2 (because z2 must be a LE + NU sumti).
What can I do?

mi'e .ianis.