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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sunrise & sunset
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>
> It loses the symmetry though.


Yes. But it can be regained with {sisti} or something.



> {donri} is not "daylight" but "daytime". I'm not sure if the sun can be
> said to be its source. Maybe.


More precisely it is the logical reason why daytime exists. {lo krinu}.
Or {lo rinka}.



> (And what would the source of the nighttime be?)


The same; the existence of daytime, all in all the existence of the star.


> All of these work for "sunrise" and "sunset" as time indicators,
> not for the actual event as in "we went to watch the sunset on the
> beach".


Yup.

mi'e darves.

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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">It loses the symmetry though.</b=
lockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Yes. But it can be regained with {sisti} or something.</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">{donri} is not &quot;daylight&qu=
ot; but &quot;daytime&quot;. I'm not sure if the sun can be<br>said to be i=
ts source. Maybe.
</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>More precisely it is&nbsp;the logical reason why daytime exists. {lo k=
rinu}.</div>
<div>Or {lo rinka}.</div>
<div><br>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">(And what would the source of th=
e nighttime be?)</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The same; the existence of daytime,&nbsp;all in all&nbsp;the existence=
 of the star.<br>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">All of these work for &quot;sunr=
ise&quot; and &quot;sunset&quot; as time indicators,<br>not for the actual =
event as in &quot;we went to watch the sunset on the
<br>beach&quot;.</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Yup.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>mi'e darves.</div>

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