From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 13 19:47:13 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ExcNk-0007NU-VI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:47:13 -0800 Received: from krusty.pcisys.net ([216.229.32.178]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ExcNh-0007NM-Pt for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:47:12 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cwap-206-53-21-94.cos.pcisys.net [206.53.21.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by krusty.pcisys.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0E3l7Dx000167 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:47:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <43C8737A.4030106@pcisys.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:43:54 -0700 From: Stephen Simmons User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041221 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sunrise & sunset References: <43C66C7F.9070206@pcisys.net> <925d17560601121520sd9ad674ufab4f3bd531bef1b@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0601130701k69f51ddeu6685d61741591f17@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560601130736w54be1edg97add03b894a7a49@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560601130736w54be1edg97add03b894a7a49@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by krusty.pcisys.net id k0E3l7Dx000167 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2958 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ssimmons@pcisys.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jorge Llambías wrote: >On 1/13/06, HeliodoR wrote: > > >>>But unless mentioning the sun was important for some reason, I might >>>prefer something like {dorkra} and {dorfa'o} for "sunrise" and "sunset". >>> >>> >>Maybe {nundorcfa} is even less ambiguous - {dorkra} could be our central >>star Sun, too: the source of daylight. >> >> > >It loses the symmetry though. > >{donri} is not "daylight" but "daytime". I'm not sure if the sun can be >said to be its source. Maybe. (And what would the source of the >nighttime be?) > >Also possible are {ctefa'o} and {ctekra}. Or {ctefa'o} and {dorfa'o}. >Or {dorkra} and {ctekra}. > >All of these work for "sunrise" and "sunset" as time indicators, >not for the actual event as in "we went to watch the sunset on the >beach". > >mu'o mi'e xorxes > > To be able to base sunrise and sunset off of either daytime or nighttime is a neat feature in my mind. Originally, I was confused about origin of daytime, as I also confused daytime with daylight without thinking about it. Thanks for you help, Stephen Simmons > > > >