From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jan 23 04:41:05 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F110B-0007yI-AR for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:40:57 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F10zX-0007x4-04 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:40:52 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so780553wri for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:40:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Dnpa6uPUWZjBUrztcajXrRt80TippPKKDG3yOCEJOmHbrglLoiBhwjKAIT0nKfTaflNt5Em5t/zj7Fz+6g6+Hh20umWAdHUJvr7RuR7khUCV0EtHGGh5vAoGCrhp330T5E7+y2dqht6Lp8k1bragzyZUuVj8warGYW/SZIeYLg0= Received: by 10.54.122.13 with SMTP id u13mr5738125wrc; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.66.20 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 04:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560601230440j20aef3f0gaf151c59e77a0d5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:40:13 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Universal claims within a nested bridi In-Reply-To: <1708370362.20060122105001@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1708370362.20060122105001@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2992 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/22/06, Yanis Batura wrote: > [1] {mi kakne lonu mi citka ro da} > > {ro da} here is an example of dropped prenex. > The question is whether the prenex is of the inner bridi ({mi citka > ro da}), or of the outer bridi ({mi kakne lo nu...kei})? It's {mi kakne lo nu ro da zo'u mi citka da}. Compare with {mi kakne lo nu mi na klama}, which is {mi kakne lo nu naku zo'u mi klama} and not {naku zo'u mi kakne lo nu mi klama}. mu'o mi'e xorxes