From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jan 24 13:39:43 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F1Vt9-0002mU-CH for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:39:43 -0800 Received: from web51511.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F1Vt7-0002mJ-W1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:39:43 -0800 Received: (qmail 31539 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2006 21:39:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IVuEhNN4zjaTDsx29NZzQ2bhA/LKg47Bt+rUTvyBR/q32qfdf+iqEjiTI8mIXNDBQJs6ocYlqxvj7LuOEQSjxDar5M5f9vr2xNuEUh2NI/1ch5aWxNdHaBZEMbDfuqMRVMKRbZnJ0p2KpQKfEImZRQVilJVGf1CBJJKevMk/hXY= ; Message-ID: <20060124213940.31537.qmail@web51511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.176.97.175] by web51511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:39:40 PST Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:39:40 -0800 (PST) From: Opi Lauma Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pamoi le'i dotco prenu poi ... To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-707367823-1138138780=:31235" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 3016 X-Approved-By: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-707367823-1138138780=:31235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would say it like this: {ti pa moi X1 X2}, where X1 is the set which contains element which is the first (in some sense). X1 = {lo mi cukta poi se vecnu be mi ku} = “My books sold by me” X2 is ordering parameter. As the ordering parameter I would use time interval {lo temci} between the moment when book was sold {le nu vecnu ku} and now {le mokca be ti ku}. X2 = {lo temci be le nu vecnu ku bei le mokca be? ti} Here I am not sure because I used one {be...be’o}-construction inside of another {be …be’o}-construction and I do not know what is the correct syntax in this case. In this way the whole sentence should be: ti pa moi lo mi cukta poi se vecnu be mi ku lo temci be le nu vecnu ku bei le mokca be ti vau >Alex Joseph Martini wrote: >Would it be correct then to say "This is the first of my books that I >have sold." as {ti pa moi lo mi cukta lo ka mi vecnu ce'u} ? > >mu'o mi'e .aleks. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. --0-707367823-1138138780=:31235 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would say it like this:
 
{ti pa moi X1 X2},
 
where X1 is the set which contains element which is the first (in some sense).
 
X1 = {lo mi cukta poi se vecnu be mi ku} = “My books sold by me”
 
X2 is ordering parameter. As the ordering parameter I would use time interval {lo temci} between the moment when book was sold {le nu vecnu ku} and now {le mokca be ti ku}.
 
X2 = {lo temci be le nu vecnu ku bei le mokca be? ti}
 
Here I am not sure because I used one {be...be’o}-construction inside of another {be …be’o}-construction and I do not know what is the correct syntax in this case.
 
In this way the whole sentence should be:
 
ti pa moi lo mi cukta poi se vecnu be mi ku lo temci be le nu vecnu ku bei le mokca be ti vau


>Alex Joseph Martini <alexjm@umich.edu> wrote:
>Would it be correct then to say "This is the first of my books that I
>have sold." as {ti pa moi lo mi cukta lo ka mi vecnu ce'u} ?
>
>mu'o mi'e .aleks.

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