From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 27 11:28:23 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F2ZGh-0008Hj-E3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:28:23 -0800 Received: from snowdon.metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18] helo=metacarta.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F2ZGe-0008Hc-HR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:28:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.24]) by metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5BB51803C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from metacarta.com ([65.77.47.18]) by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [65.77.47.24]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19015-07 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [65.77.47.138] (baxter.metacarta.com [65.77.47.138]) by metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18415181AF for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:27:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43DA740F.2080505@ropine.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:27:11 -0500 From: Seth Gordon User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040530) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] "national antigun violence initiative" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3034 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sethg@ropine.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners My wife observed a headline in today's _Boston Globe_: "Menino launches national antigun violence initiative". So, she said, we'll find all the guys with NRA stickers on their cars and beat them up? Anyway, I tried to translate what the headline-writer presumably meant into Lojban, and came up with "la meninos. cfagau lo natmi se zukte be fi lenu dicra lo xumjimcelxa'i vlile". Should that "lo natmi se zukte" be "lo nu natmi se zukte"? I assumed I didn't need the "nu" because the x2 of zukte is defined as being an activity, but I could be wrong....