From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 17 10:20:51 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKJZD-0002Xo-B8 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:51 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.206]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FKJZB-0002Xg-EX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:51 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so662105nzf for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dApST3eomy1lkkSfZyiB6IYn4b8hVIhLW20LjbDBeKRgxbus0e59N7mfuyrt0eFFvtEKbsKPIFbGBlH2EMzNccFkaLOGAP/cy86fYeGJvvrvo0kaCkkCQ73Od6N3A1XJgA0xsCNcLfUJ1RLznihQwsOe9em5ks9Pcfo/NNwjirE= Received: by 10.64.131.16 with SMTP id e16mr381688qbd; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.214.13 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:20:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0603171020v583ea230m7ab9f5ebfdf38e40@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:20:47 +0100 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My first two sentences - are they correct so far? In-Reply-To: <296255583.20060317160431@stapelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4872_29813258.1142619647739" References: <1225392006.20060314082022@stapelberg.de> <2d3df92a0603160646v4b19553av2c3aee4574ac686@mail.gmail.com> <1675004324.20060316163310@stapelberg.de> <2d3df92a0603170639l228b6945yc81ee6e0aa624d3b@mail.gmail.com> <296255583.20060317160431@stapelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 3116 X-Approved-By: exitconsole@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_4872_29813258.1142619647739 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > > > You wrote {lei mi} which should simply be {mi}. > Mh well, but isn't there some necessary word which expresses that this > are some information *about* me and not *from* me (well, they are > aswell from me, but that's not the fact I want to stress)? > The definition of zildatni is: > x1=3Dd1 is information gathered/produced by method/from source x2=3Dd3 > So how would I use this now normally? le zildatni mi? *datni*: x1 (du'u) [fact/measurement] is data/information/statistic(s) abou= t x2 gathered by method x3; You don't need {zildatni} - {datni} is what You're looking for! {loi datni be mi} means exactly "some data about me". mi'e darves. ------=_Part_4872_29813258.1142619647739 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
> You wrote {lei mi} which sh= ould simply be {mi}.
Mh well, but isn't there some necessary word which = expresses that this
are some information *about* me and not *from* me (well, they are
as= well from me, but that's not the fact I want to stress)?
The definition = of zildatni is:
x1=3Dd1 is information gathered/produced by method/from = source x2=3Dd3
So how would I use this now normally? le zildatni mi?
 
datni: x1 (du'u) [fact/measurement] is data/informati= on/statistic(s) about
x2 gathered by method x3;
You don't need {zildatni} - {datni} is what You're looking for!
{loi datni be mi} means exactly "some data about me".
 
mi'e darves.
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