From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 13 04:38:46 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fq7EL-0002MI-QX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:38:45 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Fq7EK-0002MA-Qj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:38:45 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so471443ugd for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:38:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pQHRJ1vwVKhLc0OKbLbzGAqg44cxoGuYUDcnUqBWOb82wN7tVw1Nfyq/AYvo9fAg2mTJsgdGOSA1JAVLV8B7sJEN8v+Avpp/zPFpl9y2g58RB5w9hYBG54mlDHl8jlROro6aSgR4CuDAXuYPh79RtH6BxMRYETKhpAQE9QfldD8= Received: by 10.78.52.17 with SMTP id z17mr165874huz; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.13.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0606130438hae03734t9187f219bd07bd7e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:38:42 +0200 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Totally new In-Reply-To: <1653063242.20060613160229@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <448c7d03.0257091b.6491.ffffea1b@mx.gmail.com> <4517AFBE-23B7-435C-A0B2-92B3730CDEBD@cordite.com> <1653063242.20060613160229@mail.ru> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-archive-position: 3246 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lojban+For+Beginners&bl You'll find Lojban for Beginners (aka. "le velcli be fi la lojban. bei loi co'a cilre") especially helpful. It's a great tutorial, a little old, not really up to date, yet there's only one feature of the logical language that has changed remarkably: You should know that {lo} has become the generic article instead of {le}, what is mostly used in the velcli to make "nouns" out of "assertions". This new usage is called "xorlo" since xorxes was the one to come up with this proposal. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=How+to+use+xorlo mi'e.darves.