From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 06 06:15:07 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyThC-00052k-Pa for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:15:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.mail.ru ([194.67.23.149]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyThA-00052Y-O8 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:15:06 -0700 Received: from [84.204.201.250] (port=48484 helo=[10.15.28.10]) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1FyTh8-000Poi-00 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:15:02 +0400 Message-ID: <44AD0D08.4080904@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:15:52 +0400 From: Dmitry User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: explicit time and space References: <44ACD9E3.4000809@mail.ru> <200607061126.06220.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> <20060706113558.GA11776@achatina.gabrielebner.at> <200607061255.27831.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> <925d17560607060552l1a392bb6uc3f542d613b69bfa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560607060552l1a392bb6uc3f542d613b69bfa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-archive-position: 3349 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ratson@mail.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jorge Llambías wrote: > > cukta [ cku ] book > x1 is a book about subject/theme/story x2 by author x3 for audience x4 > preserved in medium x5 > [this is a quantity of text, and not the physical object (= selpapri); > > So {mi tcidu le cukta} or {mi tcidu fi le xe cukta}. So I can conclude, there are two variants of "I read the book" mi tcidu le cukta mi tcidu fi le xe cukta == mi tcidu fi le xelcku