From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 06 08:06:43 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyVRC-00088s-7w for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:06:42 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyVR9-00088b-L2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:06:41 -0700 Received: from [192.168.25.19] (unknown [192.168.25.19]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19AECE609 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:06:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: explicit time and space Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:06:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44ACD9E3.4000809@mail.ru> <200607060722.47736.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200607061250.15044.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> In-Reply-To: <200607061250.15044.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607061106.13042.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 3351 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Thursday 06 July 2006 07:50, djim.dyBEL. wrote: > On Thursday 06 July 2006 12:22, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Dates are said in the order YYYY-MM-DD when said as a number. > > Is this a recent change? Lojban for Beginners seems to say it's the other > way around, and the errata on the wiki doesn't list this as a mistake. > > http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less5dates.html {pi'e} is used to separate digits in bases greater than 16 and to separate numbers in a compound number, which can be any of various things, such as: a map book and page number: vovopi'ecixapa, 44-361; a continued fraction, in which the components sort alternately up and down; a time, which is actually a base 60 number; a chapter and verse in the Bible. In all of these, the most significant number comes first. It makes no sense to do it the other way around with dates. phma