From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jul 06 09:47:21 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyX0b-0001K8-KI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:47:21 -0700 Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com ([72.14.214.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyX0Y-0001Jy-Qv for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:47:21 -0700 Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 34so1431726hud for ; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JTlcX1eFY8fRqp8KXN/hjz0fIhp7XvouuIKAMjOiD34k+wiD89SXiFty5rVx/BD9sHQL9rCHaMeVYC2DD2w1/nkIicvHvMq6Bn6YxozUZyMTEdxwCJNA9wSjUkEucb81oRAJcloa0IHBLyBx5a5NTyCKCj2GELQag6wJ++ayduk= Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr930589ugm; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.8 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:47:16 -0700 From: "Theodore Reed" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: explicit time and space In-Reply-To: <200607061106.13042.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44ACD9E3.4000809@mail.ru> <200607060722.47736.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200607061250.15044.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> <200607061106.13042.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 3352 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ted.reed@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 7/6/06, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 06 July 2006 07:50, djim.dyBEL. wrote: > > On Thursday 06 July 2006 12:22, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > Dates are said in the order YYYY-MM-DD when said as a number. > > > > Is this a recent change? Lojban for Beginners seems to say it's the other > > way around, and the errata on the wiki doesn't list this as a mistake. > > > > http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less5dates.html > > {pi'e} is used to separate digits in bases greater than 16 and to separate > numbers in a compound number, which can be any of various things, such as: > a map book and page number: vovopi'ecixapa, 44-361; > a continued fraction, in which the components sort alternately up and down; > a time, which is actually a base 60 number; > a chapter and verse in the Bible. > In all of these, the most significant number comes first. It makes no sense to > do it the other way around with dates. This is a case where there is no official sanction one way or the other, but many of us have decided to use ISO standard format, as phma suggests. -- Theodore Reed (treed/bancus) www.surreality.us