From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 10 10:27:25 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzzXY-0003mR-T4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:25 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzzXX-0003mJ-Ti for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:24 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so1528022ugd for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OM2X2qsICqGYd9QYwTpgcr0nm73anD5qILfUes+mzhyVy2flsMb4xPvWV0hcUh3iWQlhYrhu0bcLjMJFLeTMkLql2XAZseQkIBZWAbfHgrS4qZluC6jW8imrSydZ9n70MDtN2tcfZcj11msfknpG7+nPy+WYBsTVUjqzEkia4x4= Received: by 10.67.101.8 with SMTP id d8mr130628ugm; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.30.12 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:27:22 -0400 From: "Jonathan Gibbons" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Enumerating in Lojban In-Reply-To: <20060710164123.GS3440@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1684503175.20060710193640@mail.ru> <925d17560607100826x2a37ffcfi69c9964cabf0b53@mail.gmail.com> <537d06d00607100919v70febc62u93929e72b0041c48@mail.gmail.com> <20060710164123.GS3440@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 3402 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jonored@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 7/10/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > L*(1) parsers (all of them, I believe) have Problems with joi. > As solving this problem only requires two tokens of lookahead, it's > pretty sad. This is one of the reasons I'm happy with camxes ...Why not just write it with precedence, and use a GLR parser, rather than a LALR(1) parser? I've been poking at writing a transformation program from the EBNF grammar to a bison grammar for the same thing... in bison, as it happes. Doesn't "elided when no grammatical ambiguity exists" just mean "The default is something else when the token is elided and it could be something else", which is to say, "the rule with terminator has high precedence, but without has low"? am I missing something?