From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jul 28 14:06:31 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G6ZXT-0008Di-Fl for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:06:31 -0700 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G6ZXR-0008Db-BK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:06:31 -0700 Received: from bcpl.net (c-69-251-7-254.hsd1.md.comcast.net[69.251.7.254]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060728210627011008jlgbe>; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:06:27 +0000 Message-ID: <44CA7C31.9070107@bcpl.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:05:53 -0400 From: Michael Turniansky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: FW: lojban talks! (fwd) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070909050302060103000909" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-archive-position: 3457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: turnip@bcpl.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070909050302060103000909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are approximately 1300 different words here (see enclosed list). No attempts at data massaging have been made other than collapsing plurals/present tense verb forms in a mechanical manner. Total time to do this in MUMPS: <10 minutes --Mike T. Matt Arnold wrote: > Jeff and Jackie, > > I already extracted the text from the PDF into a Word doc, and also > made a version in which I stripped out all text that was not spoken. > (I am attaching it here.) Since the Lojbanists are a tech-savvy group, > I'm hoping that somebody on the Lojban list will know of a piece of > software that will mulch it so each unique word is listed once. Then > we would have a very rough estimate of how many rare or difficult > concepts we will have to develop with the Lojban vocabulary-creation > system. > > -Matt > > On 7/14/06, Priskorn, Jeff wrote: > >> Jacquie and I are excited to have our script be considered for this >> project. I'm not sure how to exactly go about creating a list of the >> individual words in the script; however, I would be happy to get you a >> version of the script in whatever format might make it easier for you to >> extract the necessary information (MS Word, text document, etc.). Let me >> know if we can help in any way. >> >> ki'e! :) >> >> Jeff & Jacquie >> www.JeffPriskorn.com >> www.JacquieFloyd.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Arnold [mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:23 PM >> To: Bruce Webber >> Cc: jleadbet@emich.edu; Neil Epstein; Sean Klein; Thomas Idzikowski; >> lojban-beginners@lojban.org; lojban-list@lojban.org; >> jjfloyd@rocketmail.com; jeff@smarmyland.com >> Subject: Re: FW: lojban talks! (fwd) >> >> For those just joining us, here's the website I am referring to: >> http://www.loveandplutonium.com/ >> >> Love & Plutonium contains 7,030 words of English dialogue, if you >> include Dr. Medlo's written To-Do list. That's only 500 more words than >> True Extremes. I was tickled by this story and would be willing to put >> my efforts toward the translation. What do the rest of you think? Our >> first task would be to figure out how to say plutonium! How about {lo >> sovomoi selratni}? >> >> I'd also like to somehow derive a list of all the individual words used >> in this text. I wish I knew how to do that. >> >> -epkat >> >> On 7/13/06, Bruce Webber wrote: >> > Here is the Love and Plutonium script. Enjoy! >> > >> > ------------ Forwarded Message ------------ >> > Date: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 PM -0400 >> > From: Jeff Priskorn >> > To: 'Bruce Webber' , jjfloyd@rocketmail.com >> > Cc: 'John Kerr' >> > Subject: RE: FW: lojban talks! >> > >> > Bruce, >> > >> > This sounds like a very interesting project. We'd be pleased to have >> > you take a look at the L&P script (attached). Let us know if you need >> > anything else! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Hank & Little Liberty :) >> > >> > ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce Webber >> > brucewebber@fastmail.us >> > http://brucewebber.us >> > >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: "Jeff Priskorn" >> > To: "'Bruce Webber'" , >> > >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:11:43 -0400 >> > Subject: RE: FW: lojban talks! >> > Bruce, >> > >> > This sounds like a very interesting project. We'd be pleased to have >> > you take a look at the L&P script (attached). Let us know if you need >> > anything else! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Hank & Little Liberty :) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Bruce Webber [mailto:brucewebber@fastmail.us] >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:38 PM >> > To: jjfloyd@rocketmail.com; jeff@smarmyland.com >> > Cc: John Kerr >> > Subject: Re: FW: lojban talks! >> > >> > >> > > Bruce, Jeff. Jeff, Bruce. Bruce, Jacquie, Jacquie, Bruce. Jeff, >> > > Jacquie, Jacquie Jeff. I'm Jebby, I'll be playing the role of "guy >> > > who shares email address for latest crazy idea." Keep me in the >> loop! >> > > >> > > -Jebs >> > >> > Hi Jacquie and Jeff, >> > >> > I'm learning a spoken language called lojban (pronounced "LOZHbahn") - >> >> > it's a constructed (invented) language. You can learn more about it at >> > >> > http://www.lojban.org >> > >> > Lojban means "logical language" - it tries to be regular, unambiguous >> > and culturally neutral. Lojban has been around in it's current form >> > since the 80's, and existed as Loglan since the 60's. There aren't too >> >> > many people that speak it, but books have been translated into it >> > (Alice in Wonderland) and written in it (le nicte cadzu - The Night >> Walkers). >> > >> > Lately there has been interest in translating a film into Lojban, and >> > dubbing the voice and doing subtitles. This would be helpful for >> > Lojban students, and would be - well, unique :) >> > >> > Jebby offered "True Extremes" and there is some interest in that, but >> > some people in the community think it's too dark. We looked at "Arbor >> > Daze", but there is too much technical jargon which would be hard to >> > translate. "Love and Plutonium" comes to mind as a fun movie. Would >> > you be willing to let us look at this? >> > >> > If so, we would first take a look at the script - people may not want >> > to tackle it if it's too long (the Lojban community is not that >> large). >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce Webber >> > brucewebber@fastmail.us >> > http://brucewebber.us >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------070909050302060103000909 Content-Type: text/plain; name="LAP.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="LAP.TXT" A(S) ABLE ABORT ABOUT ACCIDENTALLY ACCORDING ACCOUNT ACT ACTING ACTUALLY ADDRESS ADMIT AFTER AFTERNOON(S) AGAIN AGAINAND AGAINST AGREE AGREEING AGREEMENT(S) AH AHEAD AIR ALIEN ALL ALLERGIC ALLOW ALMOST ALONE ALREADY ALRIGHT ALWAYS AM AMBITION AMERICAN AN AND ANDIS ANGEL ANNOUNCING ANY ANYMORE ANYONE ANYTHING ANYWAY AOL APART APPLE APPOINTMENT ARBOR ARCH ARE AREA AROUND ARREST ARTS ASIDE ASKING ASKINGNAY ASS AT AUDITOR AURA AWAY AWFUL B BABY BACK BAD BALLGAME BAR BASTARD BATTLE(S) BATTLED 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