From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 17 13:49:06 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDona-000267-N9 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:06 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.237]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GDonY-00025r-BV for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:06 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so573784wxc for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cebDVTn9zMbZJT7Tqt38Knq6weU71FnTxBG79Nf3z9NH70QRdsh+Vk5drHg7kWWXNCOvF++Q7tkU34JX1tvTMdn60r13FWQFXk5nARn3Sg/h9ySk3kXB0CSE70Ynf5DgZbyxeHpT7ZNrPF1fUC8e2rWpBSre5/8OjDSfomIRZJA= Received: by 10.48.163.19 with SMTP id l19mr2812715nfe; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.92.8 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f30608171349m2bf45e3fj16b81d441f160a37@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:49:00 -0500 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: ti/ta/tu, zo'e, da In-Reply-To: <925d17560608171211g508d895bre7a94b7124905dc8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <44E48545.9090001@freenet.de> <737b61f30608170837o57edbca7gd03473dfbcc15cd2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560608170914g10720851w26239dd0001bdf6d@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30608170953p6bcfdbcjd3a760a9b7914bcb@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560608171102v495b7e02ueff57256af1a4de9@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30608171124r375df6a9m996ddd220224c3d2@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560608171211g508d895bre7a94b7124905dc8@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 3527 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/17/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 8/17/06, Chris Capel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > .i lo munje puzuki citno .i ro cmana cazu crino > > > > I was trying to use "cazu" or "caza" to mean "simultaneous to within X > > time period", where X is za or zu. For instance, in certain context > > things are only simultaneous if they happen within a few nanoseconds > > of each other. In other contexts, that can be seconds, hours, years, > > or eons. > > Both "the world was young" and "all mountains were green" are very > long events, presumably the intent is that their durations overlap, so > their simultaneity is not a matter of any separation between them, > neither nanoseconds nor years. They are truly simultaneous. I took "munje" to mean "universe", not "world", which I think changes things a bit. I think perhaps we're on the same page here. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet)