From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Aug 20 08:16:35 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEp2R-00081f-0H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:35 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GEp2P-00081X-MX for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:34 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so1994418nfc for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aHj+3ZFM2Fi6u868yz66mogHrcv2N/JQZGmycUUXG43Y45LR4CXRS/unj/4o3dcMMSrXxF7cuIXHEM5GyMVeQSUKdEqoymKITZCVRanf/PNCFcrz6WAOgtF6idxSSFm9xwfk/4+LMopapPo3dzuxNbXP0Cj5W2uZ8cbycWi2NF4= Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr6603451nfj; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.161.17 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 08:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:16:32 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: legal consonant pairs and permissible initial consonant pairs In-Reply-To: <20060819191921.84555.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060819191921.84555.qmail@web37902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3535 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/19/06, c k wrote: > > coi rodo, > .au .uanaibu'onai > > CLL: "There are just 48 such permissible initial consonant pairs, as > follows: bl br cf ck cl cm cn cp cr ct dj dr dz fl fr gl gr jb jd jg jm jv > kl kr ml mr pl pr sf sk sl sm sn sp sr st tc tr ts vl vr xl xr zb zd zg zm > zv" > > Firstly, I don't see {rs} listed as one of the 48 permissible initial > consonant pairs although there are gismu like {jursa} and {darsi} etc. Also > there are lujvo in the lujvo list which also use {rs} as an initial > consonant pair: {jaurselylu'i}, {jirsezlu'i}, {ki'orsamsrorau}, {varsenta}. > Not only that, but I am able to also find other lujvo in the "current" lujvo > list that appear to violate the initial consonant pair rule, such as > {kamsorselmanri}. None of those Lojban words have initial consonant pairs. -epkat