From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Sep 03 11:32:47 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GJwlz-0000ZG-8r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:32:47 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GJwly-0000Z7-Sl for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:32:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 11:32:46 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Stress. Message-ID: <20060903183246.GG29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20060902164155.51784.qmail@web51509.mail.yahoo.com> <12d58c160609021223l58876451q672af9a04d359d6c@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0609021314m5bd32555n389ea2afedf21959@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30609031028u632750fnf464dfa780087211@mail.gmail.com> <20060903182706.GF29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060903182706.GF29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 3560 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 11:27:06AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 12:28:36PM -0500, Chris Capel wrote: > > On 9/2/06, HeliodoR wrote: > > >> Well, {fe'ire'a} is 2 words in a cmavo cluster. So it's {fE'i > > >> rE'a}. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan > > > > > >But you can say them as one word, can't you? > > > > If you mean to ask, can you stress them so that they become a > > lujvo, then no. If you mean, can you stress E in re'a and have > > them be interpreted the same (as two cmavo), then I think yes. I > > think there might be a danger of confusion if you say them > > directly after a brivla, and you don't stress the brivla. > > It is *always* in error to fail to stress brivla. Otherwise > "miklama" parses two ways; there happens to be no word "mikla", > but there are other examples where both possibilities are valid. Thought about it more, ran a search. "letadjicaku" can parse as "le ta djica ku" or "le tadji ca ku", both completely valid and sensible. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/