From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 04 13:19:06 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GKKuQ-0004K9-Do for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:19:06 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GKKuO-0004Ji-Lc for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:19:06 -0700 Received: from [192.168.25.19] (unknown [192.168.25.19]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F65CE2C2 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:18:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Stress. Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:18:45 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060902164155.51784.qmail@web51509.mail.yahoo.com> <20060903224233.GI29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560609040603nbf52a5eh5cc7da7732474136@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560609040603nbf52a5eh5cc7da7732474136@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609041618.46465.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 3566 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Monday 04 September 2006 09:03, Jorge Llambías wrote: > cmevla can be stressed anywhere or nowhere, it makes no difference. It makes no difference to the lexing of the word, but can make a difference in the meaning (though the same cmevla, with the same stress, can refer to different things, e.g. {UAcintyn}). If no stress is written in a cmevla, it's pronounced with a default stress, but some sound sequences can occur in cmevla that can't occur in brivla: Syllable contains "y" and another vowel: {uiliymsyn} Two adjacent syllables contain "y": {stydmyfin} Last syllable contains "y": {uacintyn} How is the default stress determined in these cases? > cmavo can also be stressed anywhere, but, if you stress a cmavo on the > last syllable, you must make a pause, otherwise it might absorb part of > a brivla to make a new brivla {MU.pliVALsi} is not the same as > {MUpliVALsi}. /lojbójbena lójbojbéna lojbojbéna/ phma