From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 05 08:41:10 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GVVLS-0003CS-Kr for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:41:10 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GVVLQ-0003CJ-4L for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:41:10 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so222831ugr for ; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:41:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ur1pCCx5DtNHaEL++inDqwsHdBGrD6p22pI2t4FEmS9TLs/iFuUZ9M3a4K9rllt03R1NheFuf2BwqdRWNS+zPdp10CUfvHEbvUdEyL2zuuJga0CR0GJIhyIBrhXJgq7f4VNqcPSLYYfbwVZE7/wD+mDwEfmB2Ca5IA1nE2rdOts= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr481748hud; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.144.3 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:41:06 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lightbulb In-Reply-To: <925d17560610050721w1919f16dpd694e39603ab019a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <241e6b720610031415y33825031yd2ead1d89dc98c8d@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30610040749u11793452k598fc3b110599fbd@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560610050721w1919f16dpd694e39603ab019a@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 3610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > For example, when > Little Red Ridinghood is told by the wolf that his teeth are so big the better > to eat her with, the wolf is giving a final cause of why his teeth are so big, > but this is not {mu'i}. Perhaps {te pi'o}. > > The material cause of something is what it is made of, and the formal > cause of something is what its form is. These might be {se ma'e} and > {te ma'e}, but we probably wouldn't call them causes. Those aren't causes. -epkat