From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 23 15:01:40 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gc7rY-0003Oj-3N for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:01:40 -0700 Received: from centrmmtao06.cox.net ([70.168.83.78]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gc7rT-0003Nj-OS for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:01:39 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by centrmmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20061023220133.NGJL1780.centrmmtao06.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:01:33 -0400 Received: from NORA-HP.cox.net ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id dy171V0073y5FKc0000000 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:01:07 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20061023175423.01b82810@cox.net> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:01:17 -0400 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org From: Nora LeChevalier Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: conversational words for 'concerning' and 'peace'(as referring to a silence in a conversation.) In-Reply-To: <8764ebit2r.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8764ebit2r.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-archive-position: 3657 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: noras@cox.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners At 11:55 PM 10/22/2006, Timothy wrote: >I know very little lojban. But I already think in it to some >degree. I find myself saying doi in conversation after having >failed to find an English word for well doi. I have found 2 other >concepts, to date. which I struggle to say in English, I was >wondering if lojban has the solution. Here is what I would like to say. "doi" in English is "O" - as in "O ye of little faith". >when I am in an IRC conversation involving multiple subjects and >even multiple people. I would like a doi, not only for the various >people but also for the various subjects. I want to say doi >djankac's question .i {the answer}. I do not think doi is >appropriate here. because others are following the discussion too. >many times. two people will be asking the same question. I don't >want to cull away the audience with doi! What word should I use? I suggest zo'u - see the section on Topic-comment sentences (chapter 19.4) in The Complete Lojban Language. It shows "le nuzba zo'u mi ba'o djuno" as a sample translation for "As to the news, I knew it". >Another word I find myself wanting, especially in conversations with >a certainty female whom I hope to gain the favor of... is a word to >signify a peace and quite in a conversation. something that I can >say that means "I am at peace and have nothing more to say" I do not >want a long utterance like that though. I want a once syllable word >that can be said quietly so only one can hear... I guess I'd use be'ucu'i. That is "presence/satisfaction", as the midpoint of the lack/need-to-satiation range. mi'e noras.