From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Nov 20 17:30:41 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmKTB-0008DR-Jk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:30:41 -0800 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.93.160] helo=skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GmKT5-0008DI-Tp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:30:41 -0800 Received: FROM [141.213.221.81] (bursley-221-81.reshall.umich.edu [141.213.221.81]) BY skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4562567C.AD7DC.4112 ; 20 Nov 2006 20:29:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <1164068099.17011.22.camel@pulab> References: <1164068099.17011.22.camel@pulab> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alex Martini Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Group learning, any advice Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:29:26 -0500 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3686 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Nov 20, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Pupeno wrote: > Hello, > Tomorrow at night a friend is coming home to start learning lojban > together. Any hints or advice on how to do it ? any particular > resource > that is useful for group (2) learning ? > Thanks. > -- > Pupeno (http://pupeno.com) > That sounds great! The best thing you can do when you learn a new language is to have a partner. That way you can talk to each other. coirodo.com is probably a good way to learn your first Lojban words. I'd pull up What is Lojban, and page through it together. Don't worry about reading all of it. Just look at what's interesting the first time through. Then lojbanize your name. Try to make some simple sentences like {mi nelci la lojban} and {do tavla mi}. Avoid the temptation to take a phrase in English and translate it into Lojban more that once or twice, if you have to look up everything. It's a good way to learn some new grammar, but what you learn doesn't stick well unless you use it. What else... Lojban for Beginners is another good source. And, I'll plug my Lojban Reader, which goes along with LFB, too. Same with these -- the first time through, just sort of skim to get a general feeling. Come back later and try to memorize gismu. What is Lojban? http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=What+is +Lojban%3F%2C+The+Book&bl Lojban for Beginners http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/ lessons/book1.html Alex's Lojban Reader http://www-personal.umich.edu/~alexjm/reader0.html Oh - one last idea. Pick out some additudinals and discursives from LFB and use them in English speech later on. Some additudinals are .ui (happiness) .ie (agreement) and .oi (complaint). coi (hello), mo'u (end transmission/over), and co'o (goodbye) are some discursives. Good luck! mu'o mi'e .aleks.