From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 06 09:04:12 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gs0Bo-0007vR-Fz for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:04:12 -0800 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.230]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gs0Bj-0007vJ-2a for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:04:12 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so398352wxd for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jHwmCwjmcPsvYoP4xM9wjDJqIbj1iI7RHROIrsn7YxDMAY6ZCEaBSFBtdyENu8MG8O/UgLjvG6FM3qjSxMgoT3+T/LU1LvhqIXRbQK/8WNZ43OmwtXIpJVkE57QzdMfAjvMIwwhEzQaPazXe6u7pfzffgva3aKuCxb+HZYLv9Ps= Received: by 10.90.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr1110882agz.1165424645696; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.104.9 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:04:05 -0400 From: Betsemes To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A learning idea..... and my own attempt to do it. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <45705B15.4050808@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560612041453h66bb0fadgdcdcbf7aae961b04@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560612051254j7bf0c417r9e41e3b42337de16@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3815 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: betsemes@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners sa'enai mi pu noroi pidsversra lo verba poi na se bangu le mi verclibau noi spano .isemu'ibo ca lonu mi ca'o tcidu le py. sivni datni kei mi frati co jundi lonu py tavla fo lo pilpino po'o The above includes all the corrections. I also explicitly included every required pause, one after {py} and one before {isemu'ibo}. Anything else? Any other pause? On 12/6/06, Betsemes wrote: > On 12/5/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > I think you want {mi pu noroi pidversra ...}. Without {ba'o}, because > > you are talking about the sponsoring itself, not the time after the > > sponsoring. {pu noroi} says that in the past there was no time such > > that ... whereas {noroi pu} says that at no time it is/was/will be the > > case that in the past ... > > Ahhh, right, thanks. > > > I prefer {se bangu} instead of {tavla fo}, because it is not the act of > > saying something that's relevant here but the fact of being a user > > of a certain language. > > bangu x1 is a/the language/dialect used by x2 to express/communicate x3 > > Thanks > > > > I didn't find anything close to "practically". At least I meant that > > > previous sponsorships of children who don't speak Spanish have not > > > meant any problem. By those times I never got involved with them in > > > the form of exchanging letters. So this situation is new to me. Thus > > > what I meant with "practically", and I didn't find something that > > > conveyed that meaning. I'm also not sure about {sivni}. > > > > {sa'e nai}? > > sa'e discursive: precisely speaking - loosely speaking > > Hmmm, it works although I don't think it means exactly what I meant. > > What about {sivni}? Did I use it correctly? > -- ----------------------------- The one who laughs at what he/she doesn't know is on the way to become an idiot. - Samael Aun Weor ni'au lu da poi ckasu de poi da na slabu ke'a cu ca'o binxo lo tolmencre li'u pe fi'e la samael aun veor