From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 17 10:19:19 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7FNT-0001Md-Iu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:19:19 -0800 Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H7FNP-0001MT-0E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:19:15 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=GDzUG5X1MckhHxWmDSlkeyvkpnb+Fv+QpSCj5cN7fxqcSwmOb7Y7kkBz8/gS0LP0; h=Received:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.164.84.192] (helo=[10.0.1.3]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1H7FNN-00033p-Rg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:19:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-Id: <3E14BAA8-3B58-4536-B861-BC552FCC9A82@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org From: Cortesi Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vono sementu etc Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:19:36 -0800 X-ELNK-Trace: c82619e33d1ea3219c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4de5e4e207cfa3c470ac1f3cd5c7f77a20350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.84.192 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Score-Int: -23 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3890 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dcortesi@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Michael corrects my errors in parsing the first sentence of his Berenstein Bears story: Re my puzzlement about {guzmrkukurbita} for pumpkin he says > I was modeling it on their derivation of the fu’ivla for “maple” > which was also from the binomial name (see the LLG, Chapter 4, ex. > 7.4 and the subsequent paragraph). > It’s a stage 3 fu’ivla (foreign borrowing), which like other non- > cmene end with a vowel, but are distinguishable by their CCVC or > CVCC beginning glued on with an r (or n if r is impossible, or l > if both r and n are impossible), rather than a “y” which would > signify a compound brivla. I totally misread {loi drata mivmu'e} (doh!), > “drata mivmu’e” is a tanru (they are simple brivla, with no cmavo > between them). It’s “different (or other) type of nature (this > lujvo, as many others I’ve used, are found in norlujv (the > “current” lujvo list on the wordlists page) And I was correct in that Papa Bear's use of go'o does refer to his own next utterance -- had I continued to the next sentence I would have seen that. Personally I don't think go'o is the kind of thing that would appear in conversation, as opposed to an essay, but it wasn't wrong & I misread it through haste. Dave Cortesi