From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 24 15:18:36 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H9rNz-0005kr-Fc for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:36 -0800 Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.63]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H9rNs-0005kY-Ca for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:35 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=aGnYsXzoRG/Rnys9+Pf4KuTBtj1iOyOGFIMypP9v0irBGmJo66PQnR02wmu+Q/YY; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.164.90.129] (helo=[10.0.1.2]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1H9rNq-00053t-UU for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:18:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <200701231948.29769.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <1F820080-F970-4A37-BC88-3AE472E14A41@mindspring.com> <200701231948.29769.phma@phma.optus.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25D1CC5A-14A1-4059-BC52-0EA5CB02DFB4@mindspring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Cortesi Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:42 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-ELNK-Trace: c82619e33d1ea3219c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4dc9f6ab6cd7feb0135d093f832a8ea2ea350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.90.129 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3956 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dcortesi@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> ti ru'u tutra lei ri'opre >> >> SUPER: These are Green Man lands > > Is "Green Man" a name? It's a racial designation. Burroughs' Barsoom is home to two races, the Green Martians -- 12-foot-tall, green-skinned, primitive nomads -- and the Red Martians, who are highly civilized humanoids. I'm expecting to use: {lei ri'opre} the mass of individuals described as Green Persons {le ri'onakne} the green man (using generic male, since he isn't humanoid) {le ri'ofetsi} the green woman (fetsi ditto) {lei xunpre} the mass of individuals described as Red Persons {le xunynau} the red man (nanmu because he is humanoid) {le xunyni'u} the red woman (ninmu ditto) When in the next scene, a party of {le ri'osonci} comes over a hilltop and discover John Carter, one says: {ua xunpre} "Whoa! A Red One!" Dave Cortesi