From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 25 03:58:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HA3F8-0006tA-Fk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:58:15 -0800 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HA3Es-0006sq-8g for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 03:58:11 -0800 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:57:41 -0500 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007012506573924217 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:57:40 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:57:38 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:57:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4021D41E8@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <200701242300.49129.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down Thread-Index: AcdANjue87SXbtBHTDq5rGS6mfqNCAAP7eIw From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2007 11:57:38.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[023A8030:01C74078] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3959 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Would "mi viska le cukta be fa naku" effectively the same meaning as "mi na viska le cukta"? Or is it more ill-defined? I didn't realize that nu broda was a selbri. Fascinating. So I could say things like "la UAtrlus nu la naPOleon jamna terji'a"? Cool. --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Abbat Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:01 PM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down On Wednesday 24 January 2007 13:52, Jorge Llambías wrote: > A simple bridi consists of a selbri and any number of terms: > > [term] [term] ... [selbri] [term] [term] ... > > A term can be a simple sumti, like {mi}, {ko'a}, {le mlatu}, {la djan}, > {lo nu mi klama le zarci}, etc. or a _tagged_ sumti, like > {fa mi}, {ki'u ko'a}, {ca lo nu mi klama le zarci}, etc. > > There are many types of tags, the members of PU are among them. {naku} is also a term, but not a sumti, yielding weird sentences such as {mi viska le cukta be fa naku}. phma