From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 31 04:14:13 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HCELs-0000vm-9q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:14:12 -0800 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HCELm-0000ve-MF for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:14:12 -0800 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:13:52 -0500 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007013107135218264 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:13:52 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:13:52 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: set the course as I said Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:13:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7B46@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <200701301847.40197.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: set the course as I said Thread-Index: AcdEyeaM1/X6HM3HQ/KhvqhWsDEVWgAZkFcw From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2007 12:13:52.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[459364B0:01C74531] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3973 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Pierre asks: >> >> JARL THON >> >> doi noltruti'u e'unai lei ri'opre ba kavbu do >> >> SUPER: Princess! the Green Men will take you! >> >> O Princess (warning) the mass-called green-persons will capture you >What's the difference between {e'unai} and {o'i}? I think Cortesi is right here. o'i/o'inai scale it seems to me refers to how circumspect you are in speakihg, You might use it when suggesting to a muscular fellow that his hairpiece is on crooked, or when stating something you are not certain of -- "The should be back on soon, I think" (or my first sentence, for that matter). e'u/e'unai are for ko-type sentences, expressing either timidity or forcefulness in your command, respetively. --gejyspa