From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 31 16:11:19 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HCPXp-0005Mm-PL for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:19 -0800 Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HCPXj-0005MX-T2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:17 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=m1poGLZ+QeJKMIhhCakyDl0QVyyNOJK+TfUQd/Ii3YiufIZdDcxdBo2UtUDKaDVc; h=Received:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.165.172.122] (helo=[10.0.1.3]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HCPXi-00087O-Mc for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:11:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Message-Id: <36E7B03A-A977-4F11-8A12-FC9B10CE8150@mindspring.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-855461772 From: Cortesi Subject: [lojban-beginners] POM: Mors Kajak is my father Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:11:46 -0800 X-ELNK-Trace: c82619e33d1ea3219c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4df70bfbdf61a80611bbb7966a2fe131c9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.165.172.122 X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -11 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 3981 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dcortesi@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --Apple-Mail-2-855461772 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed continuing proofing the screenplay (http://www.tassos-oak.com/tempp/ barsoomian.html) Carter and Dejah Thoris are sweat-streaked and gulping air. The bodies of two Red Martians and a Green warrior are at their feet. Dejah Thoris looks quizzically at Carter. Carter looks at Dejah Thoris and likes what he sees; still panting, he essays a Virginia gentleman's courteous bow. Tars Tarkas muscles his thoat toward the air-yacht, pushing warriors aside. TARS TARKAS doi xunyni'u .i do na'eka'e snada lo nu viljivna SUPER: Red Woman: you cannot win the fight. O red-female. you (not)(innate-ability) succeed in the event of violent competition. DEJAH THORIS (between gasps) .iapei .ienai .i ko cipra levi kiljai SUPER: Think you so? Come try this blade. belief-query? disagreement. you! test this-here keen-talon! (For once the Lojban carries more and stronger meaning than the English. Thanks to la noras for {.iapei .ienai} which is perfect. {kinli jgalu == kiljai} over plain {jgalu} is gilding the lily a bit, but sounds better as dialog. TARS TARKAS .au ma cmene do SUPER: I would know your name. (desire) (?) is-name-of you DEJAH THORIS mi'e deija toris. noi noltruti'u la eliym SUPER: I am Dejah Thoris, Princess of Helium {noi} incidental clause: thanks norah La mors kajak. nolpatfu mi SUPER: Mors Kajak is my father Mors Kajak (pron. lojban-style, soft j) is noble+father-of me (Another case where I'm putting something in the Lojban that isn't in the English gloss; {nolpatfu} could be either her claim to noble descent, or it could be a habitual, respectful honorific, "my noble father," or both. --Apple-Mail-2-855461772 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

continuing proofing the = screenplay (http://www.tassos-oak.com/tempp/barsoomian.html)

Carter and Dejah Thoris are sweat-streaked and gulping air. The = bodies of two Red Martians and a Green warrior are at their feet. Dejah = Thoris looks quizzically at Carter. Carter looks at Dejah Thoris and = likes what he sees; still panting, he essays a Virginia gentleman's = courteous bow.

Tars Tarkas = muscles his thoat toward the air-yacht, pushing warriors = aside.

TARS TARKAS

doi xunyni'u .i do na'eka'e snada lo nu = viljivna

SUPER: Red Woman: = you cannot win the fight.

O red-female. you (not)(innate-ability) succeed in the event = of violent competition.

DEJAH THORIS

(between gasps)

.iapei .ienai .i ko cipra levi kiljai

SUPER: Think you = so? Come try this blade.

belief-query? disagreement. you! test this-here = keen-talon!