From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Feb 05 05:18:47 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HE3k6-0005AK-Hu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:18:46 -0800 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HE3jy-00059p-VN for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:18:45 -0800 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:18:33 -0500 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007020508183300395 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:18:33 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:18:33 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xatra poi na se pagbu lo preti Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:18:33 -0500 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7B6A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770702050504w16df5c0bs86c8ee566da472f5@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: xatra poi na se pagbu lo preti Thread-Index: AcdJJnU89cAiO6pzTviltzLOqPEh3gAAXD9g From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2007 13:18:33.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[22CAE430:01C74928] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 3999 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners (*scratches head*) but your "finti" bridi (finti bau la lojban) didn't have an x2 place specified. --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Karl Naylor Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:04 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xatra poi na se pagbu lo preti > > ni'o xu lo xatra poi na se pagbu lo preti cu badri .i da'i mi nelci > > lenu finti bau la lojban. fi lenu le jbocertu [cu]te pinka vo'e .i > ku'i > > mi na djuno ledu'u xu kau le se go'i cu se curmi > xu la'e zo vo'e ca'a du zo vo'e to tu'a le bridi be fa lu le jbocertu > cu te pinka vo'e li'u toi .enai lu lenu finti bau la lojban li'u na.e .i lonu finti lo jufra fi la lojban. poi se pagbu su'o so'o lo bridi cu ca'o nandu mi .i ji'a mi jinvi ledu'u le smuni lo cmavo be le selma'o be vo'a cu na'e veltu'i to la'anaisai le mi pu smuni cu drani toi (I had meant for vo'e to refer to the x2 place of finti; it's still difficult for me to build nested bridi without losing my place. Also, I believe the referents of VO'A cmavo are not yet agreed upon (eg. whether they refer to places of the current bridi or the outermost one), although my use of vo'e to refer to the immediately containing bridi is almost certainly incorrect)