From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Feb 05 15:49:08 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEDa7-0007Q1-J3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:49:08 -0800 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEDa3-0007Pt-8d for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:49:07 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a29so883648pyi for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=AMRmcx4kRYJdfhQJqSza7zbfr87BjiWX5K3Cx3o4bRVLgy1WaU/YyPK4Tdf/V3Nw33HT4HVEOtFKGVuCgYOr4Yw4QXjYVTUQXxrzR3q2FDRXlKQ4QDr26FxgCdD9nGzlsD1EPbmsVRlB488LxFmGJWtuL2bp6mrZVLlehPOZmRo= Received: by 10.35.38.17 with SMTP id q17mr14821281pyj.1170719341780; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.62.11 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:49:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12d58c160702051549v2766a678q748602ca6bbacf44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:49:01 -0500 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: xatra poi na se pagbu lo preti In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7B6C@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_50882_22784376.1170719341696" References: <23dc8c770702050529x61c64c47j2329c8484f9433b8@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7B6C@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f63c2ba715446bb5 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: -20 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4004 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_50882_22784376.1170719341696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/5/07, Turniansky, Michael wrote: > > I guess (and I'm not really an expert) there's nothing really wrong with > saying mi klama fi vo'e ledo zdani (="I went to your house and back") > without specifying my start and endpoints. My concern was merely with > the referent of vo'e, which, now that I read the jbovlaste definition, I > seem to have been wrong about anyhow. It does seem to refer to the > outermost bridi. That bridi doesn't do what you want it to do. What you're after is: {mi klama ledo zdani [zo'e] soi vo'e vo'i} {soi} is a reciprocity marker, so that bridi means "I went to your house from some-unspecified-place and vice versa". mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_50882_22784376.1170719341696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/5/07, Turniansky, Michael <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:
I guess (and I'm not really an expert) there's nothing really wrong with
saying mi klama fi vo'e ledo zdani (="I went to your house and back")
without specifying my start and endpoints.   My concern was merely with
the referent of vo'e, which, now that I read the jbovlaste definition, I
seem to have been wrong about anyhow.  It does seem to refer to the
outermost bridi.

That bridi doesn't do what you want it to do. What you're after is:
{mi klama ledo zdani [zo'e] soi vo'e vo'i}

{soi} is a reciprocity marker, so that bridi means "I went to your house from some-unspecified-place and vice versa".

mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan


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