From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Feb 06 09:49:11 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEURJ-0000Ou-F3 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:49:10 -0800 Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.69]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEURB-0000Og-6B for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:49:08 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=NQWgYw9DS6RktIlfYRFrfo9nggW9g3hTT5A51vaaFNAp7fN613FH/XWsBHSll2jH; h=Received:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.165.172.180] (helo=[10.0.1.2]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HEUR8-0006sf-Cz for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:48:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Message-Id: <11B969A4-E305-47CE-8345-8EB91092799D@mindspring.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--796550898 From: Cortesi Subject: [lojban-beginners] ei. aunai. Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:49:37 -0800 X-ELNK-Trace: c82619e33d1ea3219c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4dd57e410a486ec49a4c5b1aa10a4aa10d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.165.172.180 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: -6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4013 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dcortesi@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --Apple-Mail-1--796550898 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Finishing a lengthy stretch of dialog. (Current state http:// www.tassos-oak.com/tempp/barsoomian.html). John Carter impulsively leaped into a fight against the Green Warrior band at the side of Dejah Thoris; leader Tars Tarkas called a halt and began to negotiate. Dejah Thoris introduced herself... La mors kajak. nolpatfu mi SUPER: Mors Kajak is my father Mors Kajak (pron. lojban-style, soft j) is noble+father-of me TARS TARKAS mi djuno ledu'u se ricfu be ra SUPER: I know of him -- and his wealth. I know the-fact-of the wealth of [prev. sumti, la mors kajak] DEJAH THORIS xu do curmi lo nu zifle'i SUPER: Will you permit a ransom? query: you permit the event of freedom-payment? TARS TARKAS mi na ba'ukrati la tal xajys. noi te bende be mi SUPER: I cannot speak for Tal Hajus, chief of our band bacru+krati, speech type-of agent, "mouthpiece" (as opposed to tavka'i: tavla+krati, who I would read as a full rep. with discretionary powers) ko randa .isemu'ibo mi ba stidi le nu zifle'i SUPER: Yield and I will speak for a ransom you-imperative yield. with-that-as-incentive I (future) propose the event-of freedom-payment. DEJA THORIS mo sera'a .y. ti SUPER: What of ... this one? (fill in this blank) with-regard-to ...uh... this TARS TARKAS ta jinga le jinme be re bilda'a .io .i ma ta cmene SUPER: He took the metal of two warriors! What is he called? that-one gained-as-prize the metal of two military-fighters (respect). what that-one name-is DEJAH THORIS (to Carter) mi'e deijatoris. noi noltruti'u la eliym. SUPER: I am Dejah Thoris, princess of Helium do cmene ma SUPER: You are...? CARTER (a pause as he works it out; touching chest:) John Carter, Captain, of Virginia DEJAH THORIS (to Tars Tarkas) la jan carteir be... (glances at Carter, back to Tarkas) be la vyrdjenias TARS TARKAS ma stuzi la .y. vyrdjenias SUPER: Where is ... verji-nia? DEJAH THORIS (a beat as she realizes she has no clue; with an impatient wave:) vu sai .i. le'i xabju na te tavla le fadbau SUPER: Far away. They do not speak the common tongue. far very. the-set-described-as inhabitants do not speak the common- language. TARS TARKAS xu lafpi'e tai ti fa ro xabju la veirdjynias SUPER: Do they all jump like him, in verji-nia? (true?) lift-jump manner-of this-one, each inhabitant of la veirdjinias DEJAH THORIS ju'osai .i lemi patfu ba pleji tu'a ti ji'a SUPER: Of course. My father will ransom him also. certainly! my father future pays manner-of this-one also TARS TARKAS ko randa .i le re do'o ba selpai la tal xajys SUPER: Yield. Both will be judged by Tal Hajus you-imperative yield. The two you-and-others future is-matter-judged- by Tal Hajus. DEJAH THORIS ei. aunai. SUPER: It must be. (obligation) (desire-not) --Apple-Mail-1--796550898 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Finishing a lengthy stretch of = dialog. (Current state=A0http://www.tassos= -oak.com/tempp/barsoomian.html).

John Carter impulsively = leaped into a fight against the Green Warrior band at the side of Dejah = Thoris; leader Tars Tarkas called a halt and began to negotiate. Dejah = Thoris introduced herself...

La mors kajak. nolpatfu mi

SUPER: Mors Kajak is my = father

Mors Kajak = (pron. lojban-style, soft j) is noble+father-of = me

TARS TARKAS

mi djuno ledu'u se ricfu be ra

SUPER: I know of him -- and his = wealth.

I know = the-fact-of the wealth of [prev. sumti, la mors = kajak]

DEJAH THORIS

xu do curmi lo nu zifle'i

SUPER: Will you permit a = ransom?

query: you = permit the event of freedom-payment?

TARS = TARKAS

mi na ba'ukrati = la tal xajys. noi te bende be mi

SUPER: I cannot speak for Tal Hajus, chief of = our band

bacru+krati, = speech type-of agent, "mouthpiece" (as opposed to tavka'i: tavla+krati, = who I would read as a full rep. with discretionary = powers)

ko randa = .isemu'ibo mi ba stidi le nu zifle'i

SUPER: Yield and I will speak for a = ransom

you-imperative = yield. with-that-as-incentive I (future) propose the event-of = freedom-payment.

DEJA THORIS

mo sera'a .y. ti

SUPER: What of ... this one?

(fill in this blank) with-regard-to ...uh... = this

TARS TARKAS

ta jinga le jinme be re bilda'a .io .i ma ta = cmene

SUPER: He took = the metal of two warriors! What is he called?

that-one = gained-as-prize the metal of two military-fighters (respect). what = that-one name-is

DEJAH THORIS

(to Carter)
 mi'e deijatoris. = noi noltruti'u la eliym.

SUPER: I am Dejah Thoris, princess of Helium

do cmene = ma

SUPER: You = are...?

CARTER

(a pause as he = works it out; touching chest:)

John Carter, Captain, of = Virginia

DEJAH THORIS

(to Tars Tarkas)
 la jan carteir = be...
 = (glances at Carter, back to Tarkas)
 = be la vyrdjenias

TARS TARKAS

ma stuzi la .y. vyrdjenias

SUPER: Where is ... = verji-nia?

DEJAH THORIS

(a beat as she realizes she has no clue; with an impatient = wave:)
 = vu sai .i. le'i xabju na te tavla le fadbau

SUPER: Far away. = They do not speak the common tongue.

far very. the-set-described-as inhabitants do not speak the = common-language.

TARS TARKAS

xu lafpi'e tai ti fa ro xabju la veirdjynias

SUPER: Do they all = jump like him, in verji-nia?

(true?) lift-jump manner-of this-one, each inhabitant of la = veirdjinias

DEJAH THORIS

ju'osai .i lemi patfu ba pleji tu'a ti ji'a

SUPER: Of course. = My father will ransom him also.

certainly! my father future pays manner-of this-one = also

TARS TARKAS

ko randa .i le re do'o ba selpai la tal xajys

SUPER: Yield. Both = will be judged by Tal Hajus

you-imperative yield. The two you-and-others future = is-matter-judged-by Tal Hajus.

DEJAH THORIS

ei. = aunai.

SUPER: It must = be.

(obligation) = (desire-not)

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