From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Feb 07 07:12:08 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEoSt-0002Cs-Je for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:12:08 -0800 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEoSl-0002CN-Le for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:12:07 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m3so208052uge for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:11:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z+AxlXoz2AJih91H5We+wqx8rIEC5j1xhlN9evDb0f3QGqUxAPyDQZru88rb+/3z+wVC2WhzsP6QUZWw77CCxV+E3VP08gkSVAIEVL06sMVan8NaYH1YpoyzukUgtTOmpdN5DP+qE1DQi0Zcog7rcZCFnJlNUizeN+4p7BJBhak= Received: by 10.82.179.9 with SMTP id b9mr3123133buf.1170861101664; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.9.8 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:11:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560702070711redc4281s6c30c8bcb3bb0d68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:11:41 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: Hold! Stop! In-Reply-To: <3F01BE29-74B2-473E-895D-A7726E8254DD@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4EFD5066-92E6-47F5-AB5B-127D6631CA06@mindspring.com> <20070206192957.GP11684@digitalkingdom.org> <3F01BE29-74B2-473E-895D-A7726E8254DD@mindspring.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -21 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4022 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 2/6/07, Cortesi wrote: > la magrit. xusra du'u ti na tanko tubnu .i > la magrit. natfe du'u ti tanko tubnu .i Those need {lo} in front of {du'u}. Also, {natfe} doesn't mean "deny" in the sense of "person x1 denies that x2 is true". "Deny" is a pretty bad keyword, but what {natfe} means is "proposition x1 contradicts proposition x2". Perhaps {tolxusra} for "person x1 denies that x2 is true". mu'o mi'e xorxes