From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Mar 01 22:28:30 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN1Fm-0001hO-0X for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:28:30 -0800 Received: from bender-mail.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.30]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN1Fg-0001hF-Uf for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:28:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8627DD2 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nietzsche.lumma.org (dsl017-048-211.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net [69.17.48.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD667DD1 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:28:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:28:17 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org From: Carl Lumma Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7BF7@0456-its-exmp01.u s.saic.com> References: <200703011327.59569.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7BF7@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20070302062820.1AD667DD1@bender.tigertech.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on bender.tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4074 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: carl@lumma.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners At 11:22 AM 3/1/2007, you wrote: > Well, yes and no. There really aren't nouns and verbs. The same >words function as nouns, verbs, adjective and adverbs. For example, in >English, "blue" is general considered to be an adjective, and "sky" is >generally considered to be a noun. But in the sentence, "The paint >store ran out of sky blue", suddenly sky functionas as an adjective and >blue the noun. The equivalent in lojban is "lo tsani blanu" and "lo >blanu tsani". In tanru sumti, all except the rightmost brivla function >as adjectives, and the last as a noun, and in tanru selbri, all but the >rightmost brivla function as adverbs, and the rightmost as a verb "lo >blanu tsani cu sutra bajra" => "The blue sky runs quickly" "lo tsani >blanu cu bajra sutra" => "The sky blue is runningly fast" . The key >here is that they FUNCTION as certain parts of speech, but can take on >any of those roles, depending on the slot, so the language doesn't have >any fixed nouns, verbs, adjecvtive, or adverbs. > > --gejyspa Does it have sentences? -Carl