From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 02 07:12:02 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN9QQ-00039H-23 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:12:02 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN9QG-00038i-O2 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:12:00 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C24CEA69 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Nouns and verbs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:02:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703021002.13621.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -21 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4081 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Friday 02 March 2007 09:55, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/2/2007 4:21:40 AM Central Standard Time, > > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > A brivla is a verb (whether its translation in any other language is a > > verb) > > and a cmene is a noun. > > I think you meant "... and a sumti is a noun." A cmene is a name, and so > is also a noun of sorts, but it's not a general sort of noun. The sumti isn't a part of speech, that is, a word class. It's a way a phrase can be used in a sentence. On Thursday 01 March 2007 21:58, Alex Martini wrote: > At risk of being off topic, clock in Navajo is actually a verb turned > into a noun. Something on the order of "the little one that > repeatedly moves in a circle". It was one of the examples used in a > book when how few real nouns Navajo has. That's what I meant, that it's a verb used as a noun. So are brivla, when they're used in a sumti. Actual nouns are used mainly for naming individuals. phma