From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 19 05:41:30 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHB3-0004d1-Mo for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:30 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHAz-0004cI-Pb for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:29 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so1795190nfb for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZfG8Mbfs98zyNxrBFb2PKkJ0yTR43EiFSvsE6XJKEdsJm9X6pDVCsf+sOuRIzabsl4Y+Oz6ChJMyUaL7pJe9WDOWWK66/OFvZ1p43/1JQ5birJQ5yq4QXzvnqS3wiqSjyu/lgpNQDPDoXCKIUZWU/Nz4ZBPjbVRKaJigKMtXaE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aw37KRyDgwhYqhDyYpa0OsLjSIAPstgC8JFslIRBiDX6BWEcOgJDAG1GME4myyAsxA+cD1yzBgHCpptQiTXaJQy9gVejywKqWv3xAhKFjpjJeJZMcNfJF4gDeIGUtC4bOVjyRj8xOx1Bq3zf6o4R8mHYp0ucLjLjg18yiSTaktc= Received: by 10.78.203.13 with SMTP id a13mr2363881hug.1174308083533; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.50.10 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770703190541h5ffba648sa72391befaaeb085@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:41:23 +0000 From: "Karl Naylor" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C32@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <23dc8c770703190452x453a53bcy41c34e42353ba3dc@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C32@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4166 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 19/03/07, Turniansky, Michael wrote: > Well, yes, it is true that their learning lojban would cause them to > be be capable of conversing with you in lojban. Your English > translation just gave me the opinion that the "because" you wanted was > one of desire, not stating cause and effect. Yes, that would be the fault of the English language for not being able to express what I mean :) (I tried, when composing my earlier reply)