From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 19 05:46:26 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHFp-0004lW-9s for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:46:25 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHFi-0004l2-2t for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:46:24 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:45:54 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007031907455430877 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:45:54 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:45:42 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:45:42 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C33@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770703190533v5362e817t6bc55c22f5336784@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Thread-Index: AcdqIxPhI8rXaR5eRwGAIti3y0E29QAASqmg From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2007 12:45:42.0498 (UTC) FILETIME=[815B9C20:01C76A24] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4168 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Ah, so now I see what's troubling you. I don't believe it will, since we are talking about the sate of the fact here-and-now. But if it btohers you, a ca'o ("continues to") thrown in there might be the answer.... --gejyspa -----Original Message----- > I think what I was actually after was "pavo se jeftu cu temci ..."; > "something that is 14 weeks in duration is the time period..." Whoops, actually "lo jeftu be li pavo cu temci ...". I think that's finally right. But yes, that's getting a bit unwieldy now. I'm not quite sure about Michael's versions either, though. Would they imply that I will no longer study Lojban, since that would make false his assertion that the event of me studying is 14 weeks in duration? My version gets by saying that the time between starting to learn and (elided) now is 14 weeks.