From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 19 06:03:56 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHWm-0005rV-29 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:03:56 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTHWe-0005rC-9n for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:03:55 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:03:34 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007031908033427774 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:03:34 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:03:34 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:03:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C34@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560703190543g299de24dx3a941536a137dcec@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Thread-Index: AcdqJJASeUrDOfAoRXK04XkjHCbx9AAAfwew From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2007 13:03:34.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[00703190:01C76A27] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4170 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners No, jbofi'e likes it. It was my fault for trying the second sentence in isolation, since jbofi'e had drowned on the entire utterance, and I was trying to figure out where the error lay by breaking it apart, which introduced an error that wasn't there (it was only that very last utterance that was bad). My apologies, Karl. (see previous comment about making myself out to be a fool). --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Llambías Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:44 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? On 3/19/07, Turniansky, Michael wrote: > > --- > >.ije mi ca ka'e casnu so'o sampu bau ly. > > Ungrammatical as it stands (I like to run everything I send out > through jbofi'e to make sure it at least passes that level of processing > (although jbofi'e will give a false negative on some constructions, as > it likes a bit more "ku"s than are strictly necessary). "ije"=>".ijebo" {.ije} by itself should be fine there. If jbofi'e requires {bo}, then that's a bug. {bo} is required with tags used as connectives: {.i bo}, or {.i je bo}, but with {.i je} it would only be required to make binding tighter. mu'o mi'e xorxes