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From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what?
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As a beginner who has only just got through "Lojban
for Beginners", I still need to get replies in
English.  Sorry! I can't communicate in lojban yet. 
So unless your (Robin, Pierre) replies were not meant
for me, please repeat them in English.  Many thanks.

- Andrew


--- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
wrote:

> zo cmevla cu se smuni lu cmene valsi li'u .i va'i pa
> cmevla ro roi
> valsi pa mei .i ku'i pa cmene cu vasru su'o valsi
> 
> -Robin
> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 07:54:24PM -0400, ANDREW
> PIEKARSKI wrote:
> > I understand....I think...trouble is, neither
> "Lojban for
> > Beginners" nor the Reference Grammar even mention
> cmevla.  In what
> > way are cmevla different from cmene?
> > 
> > - Andrew
> > 
> > --- Nathaniel Krause <nathanielkrause@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote: What
> on
> > > earth is Dot Side?  I can't find the proposal
> > > anywhere - only some commentaries about it.
> > > 
> > > - Andrew
> > > 
> > > The so-called Dot Side opposes the orthodox
> position
> > > on the rules for forming and creating a cmevla.
> > > According to the orthodox view, no cmevla may
> > > contain the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai", unless
> > > they are immediately preceded by a consonant.
> Thus,
> > > Germany cannot be called {la doitclant.} and the
> > > Dalai Lama cannot be called {la dalailaman.}
> > > However, the advantage of the orthodox position
> is
> > > that there is no need to place a pause (dot) in
> > > between the words {doi}, {la}, or {lai} and a
> > > cmevla. For instance, in the phrase {.i la
> lojban.
> > > mo}, there is no pause inbetween {la} and
> {lojban.}
> > > 
> > > The so-called Dot Side proposes the opposite
> rule,
> > > that the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai" should be
> > > allowed in cmevla, but every cmevla must always
> be
> > > preceded by a dot. Thus one could say {.i la
> > > .lojban. mo} or {.i la .doitclant. mo} or {.i la
> > > .dalailaman. mo}.
> > > 
> > > Please note that, when a cmevla follows any word
> > > besides {doi}, {la}, or {lai}, both sides agree
> that
> > > there must be a pause before the cmevla. For
> > > instance, everyone agrees that {be'e .andruv.}
> and
> > > {mi'e .djan.} are correct.
> > > 
> > > mu'o mi'e .sen.
> > > 
> > >        
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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