From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 15 05:58:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hd4JN-0000c8-0o for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:33 -0700 Received: from web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hd4JA-0000bo-5W for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 14366 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Apr 2007 12:58:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QktB9hLfAyNXENyTRO+0KNhlif0b2/hoiags+SYfAuuvph7ruRk8xqSANEDhLLnvb6syJq+4oLUwwv5+nc0Vgz6aJvcxBAsdXT9qDMukZxX/ywJv+fjldwYdwU5C3G6PPnn/zmhT+LZbFm1mxbGv+vt/kDbBCxZ9Lv0Kynf6JAc=; X-YMail-OSG: ..0C5i4VM1msXiFBTo4TLuDhYvHRTEg73sXgvlh4s_80oTCwLDM0dp9g98cbJBzHIyUROYdDzw-- Received: from [74.96.97.233] by web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:12 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:58:12 -0700 (PDT) From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Vocabulary To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-596939616-1176641892=:12728" Message-ID: <194931.12728.qm@web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -15 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 4251 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-596939616-1176641892=:12728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii OK, but I've not been able to find cmevla "kadnygug" in any dictionary or word list. Does that mean anybody can make cmevla when they feel like it? If yes, what are the rules for doing it? For that matter, I can't find lujvo "kadnygu'e" either. Now, the rules for constructing lujvo seem to be clear, except for the business of how a lujvo becomes official and gets into jbovlaste. So how does a newly constructed lujvo become official? mu'o mi'e .andrus. ----- Original Message ---- From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:47:50 PM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? On 4/12/07, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: Great! Thanks to your collective efforts, I think I now understand why le, lo and la kandygu'e can be ok.........however, what about "la kadnygug. cu lamji la mergug" ? Surely "kadnygug" is not valid. Doesn't CLL state that a CVC rafsi cannot be at the end of a word? - Andrew A CVC rafsi cannot appear at the end of a *lujvo*; all lujvo are brivla, and all brivla must end in a vowel. "kadnygug." is a cmevla, built out of rafsi to signal its meaning to the listener. But one could certainly name one's pet capybara "kadnygug." just as one could name him "Canada". mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan --0-596939616-1176641892=:12728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii

OK, but I've not been able to find cmevla "kadnygug" in any dictionary or word list. Does that mean anybody can make cmevla when they feel like it? If yes, what are the rules for doing it?

For that matter, I can't find lujvo "kadnygu'e" either. Now, the rules for constructing lujvo seem to be clear, except for the business of how a lujvo becomes official and gets into jbovlaste. So how does a newly constructed lujvo become official?

mu'o mi'e .andrus.

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From: "komfo,amonan" <komfoamonan@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:47:50 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what?

On 4/12/07, ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:

Great! Thanks to your collective efforts, I think I now understand why le, lo and la kandygu'e can be ok.........however, what about "la kadnygug. cu lamji la mergug" ? Surely "kadnygug" is not valid. Doesn't CLL state that a CVC rafsi cannot be at the end of a word?

- Andrew

A CVC rafsi cannot appear at the end of a *lujvo*; all lujvo are brivla, and all brivla must end in a vowel. "kadnygug." is a cmevla, built out of rafsi to signal its meaning to the listener. But one could certainly name one's pet capybara "kadnygug." just as one could name him "Canada". mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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