From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Apr 15 10:56:06 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hd8xK-0003sE-2r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:56:06 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hd8xF-0003rn-S5 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:56:05 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15463CE920 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:55:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Vocabulary Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:55:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <987070.60840.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <987070.60840.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704151355.42540.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Score-Int: -22 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4255 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Sunday 15 April 2007 12:05, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: > This is all beginning to look very secretive, Matt. > > - What are the rules for constructing new cmevla (e.g. kadnygug)? > - Can anybody submit a new cmevla? > - Can anybody submit a new lujvo? > - Who has the authority to vote? > - How long does it take? Anybody with an account on jbovlaste can vote for a word in jbovlaste. To get an account, email Robin. Anybody with an account can enter a word. Jbovlaste checks the word for validity, currently using vlatai, which comes with jbofi'e and calls some valid words {e.g. damskrima} invalid because of RRC's interpretation of the word rules. Words in jbovlaste that aren't in the official gimste, ma'oste, or CLL aren't official, but people do use them. The rules for constructing cmevla and fu'ivla, other than well-formedness, are subjective and sometimes result in variants. Examples: Tibet is called both {pyd} and {bod}. Both are from the Tibetan spelling (the "d" is silent) but {pyd} uses the modern pronunciation and {bod} the ancient. ("Tibet" is from Chinese "tu bod" or the like, where "tu" is an etymon of {dertu} and {tumla}.) A manatee is both {trixexu} and {trixexo}. Both are from the genus name Trichechus; what to do with Latin "-us" is a matter of taste. I once proposed three words for "sesame" at the same time: {simsimu}, {xonxoli}, and {jerjelino}. All are in jbovlaste for anyone to vote on. Sometimes I come up with a word, but am not sure of its place structure. Pierre