From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 18 09:41:51 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HeDE6-0005Ii-Mo for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:41:51 -0700 Received: from web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.218]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HeDDy-0005IB-Tw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:41:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 41448 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Apr 2007 16:41:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=jjuGrZ57EB2bz1avUKWx5yTf3H3q6MrAGX2+047V9Qd90kUea6yy2BM5qIplDKRIf+z3Q+giDZVb7JD0jN9boSeLfuulR3N+XDisyDfmLA1JLgeBrzc2a85f771Qq+fJWzS+8u0JyiOwfokiO8FXR4mSote391+3MOOHQKIr54k=; X-YMail-OSG: d.GYu1wVM1maGGBCFKzeYuVSSAHU7GBaEjPCWu9KOjIUmDvWpydLHVT374DWVm9hAhxYh983h29sn5OHdchEEFdWLA-- Received: from [74.96.97.233] by web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:41:35 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:41:35 -0700 (PDT) From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban geography and cultures To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1995859372-1176914495=:39040" Message-ID: <547265.39040.qm@web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: -7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4299 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1995859372-1176914495=:39040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oops! It "looked" like a gismu, and I didn't count. Thanks.=0A=0Ami'e .an= drus.=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "Turniansky, Michael" =0ATo: lojban-beginners@lojban.org=0ASent: Wedn= esday, April 18, 2007 9:41:06 AM=0ASubject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban g= eography and cultures=0A=0A=0A (BTW, you might try running lojbanic stuff t= hat you don=92t understand through jbofi=92e http://www.lojban.org/jboski),= which would have said, in this case, religion-ish-crime*/sin*-ish-person(s= ). (It works on any length lojban utterance as long as their grammatical = (although there are a couple of constructs it falls down upon, which I need= n=92t go into at your level of lojban learning), and it=92s also good to do= ublecheck anything that you are saying in lojban is grammatical, and says w= hat you intend it to say.)=0A --gy=0A = =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginne= rs-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Turniansky, Michael=0ASent: Wednesday, A= pril 18, 2007 9:30 AM=0ATo: lojban-beginners@lojban.org=0ASubject: [lojban-= beginners] Re: Lojban geography and cultures=0A =0AAndrew asks:=0A =0A> By = the way, if gejyspa is reading this, what on earth does "jdazerpre" mean? = I haven't been able to find "zerpre' in the gismu list.=0A=0A That=92s bec= ause =93zerpre=94 is _not_a gismu Note that it has 6 letters, not five. j= dazerpre is a three rafsi lujvo, from lijda zekri prenu. jdazei (or, in th= e form that it appears here, jdazer) means sin, blasphemy or heresy. A jda= zerpre is a heretic/blasphemer/sinner. Here I=92m using it humorously to s= uggest my =93sin=94 of stating that lojban is not =93culturally neutral=94 = in every aspect. zo=92o ( J ) =0A =0A --gej= yspa --0-1995859372-1176914495=:39040 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 (BTW, you mig= ht try running lojbanic stuff that you don=92t understand through jbofi=92e= ht= tp://www.lojban.org/jboski), which would have said, in this case, relig= ion-ish-crime*/sin*-ish-person(s).   (It works on any length lojb= an utterance as long as their grammatical (although there are a couple of c= onstructs it falls down upon, which I needn=92t go into at your level of lo= jban learning), and it=92s also good to doublecheck anything that you are s= aying in lojban is grammatical, and says what you intend it to say.)=

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From:= lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban= -beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behal= f Of Turniansky, Michael
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> By the way, if ge= jyspa is reading this, what on earth does "jdazerpre" mean?  I haven't= been able to find "zerpre' in the gismu list.

  That=92s because =93zerpre=94 is _not_a gismu  Note that it has= 6 letters, not five.  jdazerpre is a three rafsi lujvo, from lijda ze= kri prenu.  jdazei (or, in the form that it appears here, jdazer) mean= s sin, blasphemy or heresy.  A jdazerpre is a heretic/blasphemer/sinne= r.  Here I=92m using it humorously to suggest my =93sin=94 of stating = that lojban is not =93culturally neutral=94 in every aspect.   zo= =92o ( J )   

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