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From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Please review # 001
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Thanks, Pierre.

Please help me understand some of your suggestions.  Generally, I would like to know when I made grammatical errors, and when the style was awkward though grammatical.

1) My use of {ti'u}.  Was this, in fact ungrammatical?  {le cerni} obviously should have been {lo cerni} but {ca} is always a problem for me.  Sometimes it signifies the present tense, and sometimes "during" - so I avoided it.  Why then {ca}?

2) My use of {ki'u}.  So are you saying that instead of {ki'u mi bilga lenu klama}  I should have written
    either
    ...iki'ubo mi bilga lenu klama... 
    or
    ...ki'u lonu mi bilga lenu klama... 
    Why either?

3) My use of {bilga}.  Are you saying that it is usually or always better to use attitudinals like {.ei} rather than their gismu equivalents?

4)  In any case, I was looking also for an attitudinal that expresses the emotion of gratitiude - but I couldn't find one.  Is there one?

mu'o mi'e .andrus.


----- Original Message ----
From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:08:14 AM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Please review # 001


On Wednesday 18 April 2007 23:51, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Please review my translation and make appropriate suggestions.  Apart from
> the grammar, are there better ways of saying this?:
>
> "In the morning, I drink coffee quickly as I have to go to my kid's school
> in order to meet his teacher."
>
> .i ti'u le cerni mi cu sutra pinxe lo ckafi ki'u mi bilga lenu klama le
> ckule pe le mi panzi tezu'e lenu penmi le ri ctuca

{ti'u} is normally used with a number, such as {ti'u li so [pe lo cerni]}; I'd 
say {ca lo cerni}.

{cu} is not necessary after {mi}, but is grammatical.

{ki'u} has to be either {iki'ubo} or {ki'u lo nu}.

Instead of {mi bilga lenu klama}, I'd say {ei mi klama}.

Pierre