From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 20 15:37:31 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hf1jO-0005Y3-NT for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:31 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.231]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hf1jJ-0005Xu-Ku for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:30 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s1so820026nze for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=G25giPJt5v45Zmc+K5AhbuGvwRDjj1liZGqJVbnNjrbjaQRliFOOQ3rJ5zOsSrsghJ1Rm3kbJl2e9eBWf0+FnV2Rgf42faDfZMLDoobwy/Mi7USeItAShzEdcS6OmShu0Lm29SFvp1MALAjDpS1RTxMQ5jG0HEZa0+f2bi1esMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=esGp5e3o1mMLtRMEnoYAGZVg1ejJBUqGA4HusQFFaa977rnFhn2pPvri7Gw24MVZf8EobasxEuCBuNJciFVBdvVvMvEgsxTHlRJJyazVB+M4Gu6q7wsod6pI+XXsDUlSxyj0iHcJ8Vr76+5Vwq00+ozo3hg04AbTW32N/MS8gYc= Received: by 10.115.18.1 with SMTP id v1mr1431522wai.1177108638455; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.109.5 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160704201537j11281870l3e7f25da5a050234@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:37:18 -0400 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Please review #002 In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7CBA@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86708_26515351.1177108638403" References: <203081.52466.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7CBA@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e500e46a5f110721 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: -20 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4343 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_86708_26515351.1177108638403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban > > .org > [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of ANDREW > PIEKARSKI > > "My mother went to buy apple or orange juice while Jacob stayed home. I > will buy some liquor when she has returned home." > > .i mi mamta pu klama se vecnu lo plise ja najnimre jisra seti'u la > .djeikob. stali le zdani .i mi ba se vecnu lo jikru ca makau la .anas. > ba'o klama le zdani .i mi ba se vecnu lo jikru ca makau le go'i ba'o > klama le zdani On 4/20/07, Turniansky, Michael wrote: > > _le_ mi mamta pu klama _tezu'e lo nu_ _te_ vecnu _loi_ plise ja najnimre > jisra (or "loi jisra be plise ja najnimre") _ca le nu_ la .djeikob stali > le zdani .i mi ba _te_ vecnu _loi_ jikru _ba'o le nu my xruti_ The parenthetical is missing a {lo}. Otherwise this is good. I would do a few things slightly differently, to wit: lo mamta be mi pu klama te zu'e lo nu terve'u lo jisra be lo plise ja najnimre ca lo nu la .djeikyb. stali lo zdani .i mi ba terve'u lo jikru ba'o lo nu lo go'i cu xrukla I would suggest running every composition through jboski or jbofi'e. When I was a beginner, a few months of doing that completely cured me of "rookie" mistakes like missing {cu}, dropping abstractions, & the like. mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_86708_26515351.1177108638403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -----Original Message-----
From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban
.org
[mailto: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of ANDREW
PIEKARSKI

"My mother went to buy apple or orange juice while Jacob stayed home.  I
will buy some liquor when she has returned home."

.i mi mamta pu klama se vecnu lo plise ja najnimre jisra seti'u la
.djeikob. stali le zdani .i mi ba se vecnu lo jikru ca makau la .anas.
ba'o klama le zdani .i mi ba se vecnu lo jikru ca makau le go'i ba'o
klama  le zdani


On 4/20/07, Turniansky, Michael <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:
_le_ mi mamta pu klama _tezu'e lo nu_ _te_ vecnu _loi_ plise ja najnimre
jisra (or "loi jisra be plise ja najnimre") _ca le nu_ la .djeikob stali
le zdani .i mi ba _te_ vecnu _loi_ jikru _ba'o le nu my xruti_

The parenthetical is missing a {lo}. Otherwise this is good. I would do a few things slightly differently, to wit:

lo mamta be mi pu klama te zu'e lo nu terve'u lo jisra be lo plise ja najnimre ca lo nu la .djeikyb. stali lo zdani .i mi ba terve'u lo jikru ba'o lo nu lo go'i cu xrukla

I would suggest running every composition through jboski or jbofi'e. When I was a beginner, a few months of doing that completely cured me of "rookie" mistakes like missing {cu}, dropping abstractions, & the like.
mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan

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