From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 27 09:41:27 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HhTVe-0004RJ-Qd for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:27 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HhTVa-0004RA-M7 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:26 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so644734ana for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nSsy6p+dhVqKU/d0fNoXj6AAsqyg+YuX8JvZRYZWU8t4oTyAJ38UhzcARKZytkbDGbH4RvC0JfrXfp84p215csQUHOpxZXwscIpGxY92USnBn5cikmP7eladVkbeiENoLM/JR4X2Q4pYFg/yKbXfZPy0V45ochLI+W1/1gCky/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sWDODlZu/LrTPFZBjKmsx0ghSoq+7x3W6K5joOT3+jp0V0DrroXb0xJPpQztxDlrhNHe0onglhHZbQFWvCEbIrsmI+pwcZlPuTq4j687Kq8ul0Mo2Mj/COKoVgW1Zj8OPk3VGe94Us15nyI4e+8YaiDNRNW3FLUYUEPkXemm3DA= Received: by 10.100.163.12 with SMTP id l12mr2180128ane.1177692075597; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560704270941p26f4cf89m88f9e7b0fd63ce8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:41:15 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo'o In-Reply-To: <702226df0704270850iba9601ctc17dfb341c068c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560704240846p7f2e73e7nd39e80a099c13fa2@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7CCB@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <702226df0704270850iba9601ctc17dfb341c068c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4420 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/27/07, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > > > > .i lonu lo gletu temci ku zasti da'i cu te > > > > rinka ma lonu lo verba ca klama ra > > > > > pe'i pei rinka ma > > .i go'i ki'a .i pe'u ko fanva la'ede'u le glibau "What do you think would happen [as a result]?" > > .i lo nu lo verba cu viska lo nu gletu na kluzei ro da > > > .i la'edi'u na kluzei mi .i mi pu te pinka lo catra be lo nuncni je'e .i mi pu srera jinvi lo du'u do jinvi lo du'u da'i rinka lo mutce se dunku > (It's not taboo to me. I was refering to the killing of the mood.) "The killer", or else {lo nu catra}. > .i.uenai ko klama le bende be denpa bu > (The above does actually mean 'Come to the Dot Side!', right?) Well... {le bende be denpa bu} is the team consisting of the people referred to with the pronoun {denpa bu}. Maybe you want {pe} rather than {be}. As for {uenai}, to me it means something like this: ue nai (UI*1) Attitudinal. Used to express expectation / expectedness / confirmation. (cf. tolselspaji) ue nai ro da pu prane Everything was perfect, just as I expected. I believe you want something more like: .e'e (UI1) Attitudinal. Used to exhort / incite / motivate / encourage / entreat / stimulate / challenge / dare / provoke / invite competition. (cf. talsa) .e'e ko jarco lo se kakne be do Show them what you can do! Go for it! .e'e mi do bajra jivna fe'e co'u le karce I'll race you to the car! mu'o mi'e xorxes