From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 18 04:30:21 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp0f3-0005UC-Cv for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:18 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp0ev-0005U2-26 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:14 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c23so196212anc for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V/ByNGPqNOkjRwENfSVp9mwGcZW3CKFKb+MGQIP7eWKydwIt5Om1KELtgAE+qMztVWe+w6k58Zon51/yi09RXQqZfrPGbDoFKDrGh9/nLXPqhQB5Orhx4hOfXWGFORZkTntj2pprcJXLd3NX2AmbPkYBWd1hrHeHpYNZuZK/mR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qWhFqsqt0nsi8hmCh8WRnW27Mpbl+k+ouXRvLP+Y84MnoHNOD+0PMXwpU9pLnBrDfCbuYFbJq3B6OqcdIEzuFt4iDgjNmMmixn9KLQqxCrsK3WFIryyRaot74xZYNzslZVH7mqJCixauA2vdb3wtxR7cKOyeeeal8r+OR5cIZcY= Received: by 10.100.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr1009076anb.1179487800439; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.6 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770705180430v2277b903xf34f9c7a1743714d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:30:00 +0100 From: "Karl Naylor" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the ".i" after "lu" In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0705180417l7a84e4a5mc65ccb3c57b10ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0705180417l7a84e4a5mc65ccb3c57b10ae@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4488 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 18/05/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > Along the course "Lojban For Beginners" I saw sentences with the direct > quotation word being followed by the sentence terminator ".i", like this: > la ranjit cu cusku lu .i mi djica lo bakni cidjrkari .e lo sluni nanba li'u > On the other hand, there are also sentences without ".i" after "lu": > la ranjit. pu cusku lu la djiotis. pu rinsa mi li'u > What is the difference between them? Beginner myself, but perfectly confident about my answer here. Put simply, "lu .i (...) li'u" means that Ranjeet really did say ".i", and conversely. If you mean to ask why he sometimes says ".i" and sometimes not, I'd imagine he uses a sentence separator when someone (himself or otherwise) has just spoken, to be clear he's starting a new sentence and not appending to the last one. However, I'm at work just now and don't have time to check. It may also just depend on Ranjeet's mood, or the authors may just have forgotten to put it in :) Does that make sense?