From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 18 07:36:29 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 May 2007 07:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp3Z8-00024f-QI for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:36:26 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX1+jfjmctm92hNnTVJQhWIDNiXso9jP89gQ=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp3Yr-00024C-5l for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:36:09 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-860682 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007051810360021437 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 18 May 2007 10:36:01 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the ".i" after "lu" Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:36:00 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D3C@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: the ".i" after "lu" Thread-Index: AceZWaYgv9WBDV3qQD2ZT6+ONltT4QAABZ7w From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2007 14:36:01.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB28C610:01C79959] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4507 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Adam, I think the question was more about the dropping of the ".i" within the dialog itself, which strictly speaking, should have been there. --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Adam D. Lopresto Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:14 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the ".i" after "lu" On Fri, 18 May 2007, Vid Sintef wrote: > I understand Michael's point. > However, some collections of text on www.lojban.org show sentences without > being separated by ".i". > The following is from "terpa lo tirxu": > > A: doi patfu do terpa xu lo tirxu > B: na go'i > A: xu go'i lo cinfo > B: si'a na go'i > A: je'e .ija'o do terpa le mamta po'o > > Is this omission of ".i" a permissive, casual application for an aesthetic > reason? > Or should it be avoided as is the case in Elmo's example? That text is *not* lojban. Think of it more as a script. The text after the colons is lojban, but the framing structure (with the colons, newlines, and such) isn't. -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ Kids! Bringing about Armageddon can be dangerous. Do not attempt it in your home. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)